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   Paul S Person to petertrei@gmail.com   
   Re: Pearls Before Swine: Cell Phone Upda   
   25 Oct 25 08:37:06   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.comics.strips   
   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 22:55:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 10/24/2025 6:08 PM, Your Name wrote:   
      
      
      
   >> That was always going to be yet another issue with electric cars because    
   >> there was no standard and no industry dicsussion int he race to be    
   >> "first", so each company stupidly made their own system.   
   >   
   >Yet another Shit On Stuff I Know Nothing About post from this guy....   
   >   
   >In North America, over the past few years, pretty much every company   
   >which sells EVs has announced cutting over to the NACS connector:   
   >SAE standard J3400. So, yes, there's a standard. Mitsubishi is the   
   >only holdout.   
      
   He's not talking about "the past few years". And you appear to agree   
   with him that different companies had different connectors -- for a   
   while.   
      
   >NACS is basically the Tesla connector, which proved far easier to   
   >use, and has a larger installed base of public chargers, than any   
   >other in the US. Older non-Teslas used CCS1 or CHAdeMO. There   
   >are adapters available to let them use the Tesla Supercharger   
   >network.   
   >   
   >In Europe and Oceania, CCS2 is the standard.   
   >In Japan, CHAdeMO.   
   >In China, GB/T   
   >   
   >Adapters are available for most combinations.   
      
   Reminds me of a dongle or two that I have that came with at least two   
   slide-in plugs to fit electrical sockets in the USA and Europe. There   
   may have been more, for other regions.   
      
   Note that the problem is not limited to the plug: the voltage/Hz vary   
   as well so the dongle (which outputs the DC needed by the device) has   
   to compensate for that.   
      
   Standardization does solve a lot of problems. In some cases, however,   
   it merely simplifies them by reducing the number of choices that need   
   to be accomodated for something to be /truly/ useable everywhere.   
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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