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   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 16:19:44 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)   
   wrote:   
      
   >Paul S Person  writes:   
   >>   
   >>On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:09:22 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott   
   >>Dorsey) wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Paul S Person   wrote:   
   >>>>Well, except perhaps for HP. I am wondering what to do with the HP   
   >>>>Envy drive: since the power button died, I had no opportunity to use   
   >>>>Eraser on it. Removing it and putting it into an enclosure would be an   
   >>>>option -- and give me another 2TB drive unless I decided to put it   
   >>>>back in the HP Envy and buy another drive for the enclosure. But   
   >>>>whether this would work or whether the drive would turn out to be   
   >>>>specially manufactured for HP and not work with an encloure is   
   >>>>unclear. I /have/ read reports indicating that this is a problem --   
   >>>   
   >>>HP and Dell have some model drives with special firmware that get   
   >>>checked by the bios, which will refuse to accept non-native drives.   
   >>>The HP drives will work on other machines, but if you want to put a   
   >>>SATA drive on the HP machine it has to be HP-branded.  HP Gen9=20   
   >>>servers are like this, Gen8 and Gen7 are not.  I know nothing about   
   >>>desktops but I know far too much about HP.   
   >>   
   >>That's encouraging.=20   
   >   
   >Note that the systems Scott is referring to are high-end servers,   
   >not home user systems.       The high-end servers from HP, DELL,   
   >et alia. are designed for high availability, hot spares and   
   >long life.   That means that they often provide modified disk   
   >drive firmware (or contract with the disk manufacturer to add   
   >capabilities to the standard firmware) which is used for various   
   >RAS[*] reasons.  The servers generally have a dozen hot-plug drive bays,   
   >redundant power supplies, and hot-plugable CPU cards.   
   >   
   >[*] Reliability, Availability and Serviceability.   
   >   
   >Datacenters have thousands of these servers, mostly managed   
   >remotely (aside from an on-site technician to manually swap   
   >drives or CPUs, or replace a power supply).   The UEFI   
   >firmware is significantly different from consumer grade hardware   
   >and is key to the RAS support.   
      
   So, is a hard drive from a plebeian home system likely to work inside   
   a plebeian hard drive enclosure purchased on Amazon?   
      
   That's the question here, after all.   
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   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
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