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   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 10/27/25 08:14, Paul S Person wrote:   
   > On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 16:19:44 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Paul S Person  writes:   
   >>>   
   >>> On Sat, 25 Oct 2025 12:09:22 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott   
   >>> Dorsey) wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Paul S Person   wrote:   
   >>>>> Well, except perhaps for HP. I am wondering what to do with the HP   
   >>>>> Envy drive: since the power button died, I had no opportunity to use   
   >>>>> Eraser on it. Removing it and putting it into an enclosure would be an   
   >>>>> option -- and give me another 2TB drive unless I decided to put it   
   >>>>> back in the HP Envy and buy another drive for the enclosure. But   
   >>>>> whether this would work or whether the drive would turn out to be   
   >>>>> specially manufactured for HP and not work with an encloure is   
   >>>>> unclear. I /have/ read reports indicating that this is a problem --   
   >>>>   
   >>>> HP and Dell have some model drives with special firmware that get   
   >>>> checked by the bios, which will refuse to accept non-native drives.   
   >>>> The HP drives will work on other machines, but if you want to put a   
   >>>> SATA drive on the HP machine it has to be HP-branded.  HP Gen9=20   
   >>>> servers are like this, Gen8 and Gen7 are not.  I know nothing about   
   >>>> desktops but I know far too much about HP.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's encouraging.=20   
   >>   
   >> Note that the systems Scott is referring to are high-end servers,   
   >> not home user systems.       The high-end servers from HP, DELL,   
   >> et alia. are designed for high availability, hot spares and   
   >> long life.   That means that they often provide modified disk   
   >> drive firmware (or contract with the disk manufacturer to add   
   >> capabilities to the standard firmware) which is used for various   
   >> RAS[*] reasons.  The servers generally have a dozen hot-plug drive bays,   
   >> redundant power supplies, and hot-plugable CPU cards.   
   >>   
   >> [*] Reliability, Availability and Serviceability.   
   >>   
   >> Datacenters have thousands of these servers, mostly managed   
   >> remotely (aside from an on-site technician to manually swap   
   >> drives or CPUs, or replace a power supply).   The UEFI   
   >> firmware is significantly different from consumer grade hardware   
   >> and is key to the RAS support.   
   >   
   > So, is a hard drive from a plebeian home system likely to work inside   
   > a plebeian hard drive enclosure purchased on Amazon?   
   >   
   > That's the question here, after all.   
      
   		As along as you match up the drive and interface in the purchased box   
     you should have no problems.  That is if the drive is ide you have to   
   have an   
     ide to USB interface.  Or if a SATA drive then a SATA to USB interface.   
   	I have assemble my own external drives for years but it is easier now than   
   when it was 50 pin scsi to 50 pin scsi.   
   	The only caveat I can see it that you have to use anti-static measures   
   to avoid component damage.   
      
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