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   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 10/27/25 14:47, Your Name wrote:   
   > On 2025-10-27 14:31:29 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:   
   >> Bobbie Sellers  writes:   
   >>> On 10/26/25 19:35, Your Name wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-10-27 00:52:44 +0000, Titus G said:   
   >>>>> On 27/10/25 11:15, Your Name wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> snip   
   >>>   
   >>>> Solar panels are somewhat of a con trick - they're massively expensive   
   >>>> to install, provide very little power unless you live in a very sunny   
   >>>> place, need constant cleaning to remain efficient as possible, and   
   >>>> eventually wear out and then need expensive replacement. There's an   
   >>>> even   
   >>>> bigger con trick where buyers are told the electricity company will buy   
   >>>> the 'spare' power generated by their solar panels - but most power   
   >>>> companies either pay very little for that extra power or aren't   
   >>>> interested at all in buying it.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Well that is when the state steps in to force the monopolistic   
   >>> electrical   
   >>   
   >> Pretty much everything 'Your Name' wrote is just plain wrong.   
   >>   
   >>   - Massively expensive to install.   Incorrect.   My 7.5kw panels have   
   >>     paid for themselves in less than five years, and now _make_ money,   
   >>     and will continue to do so for the next two decades.   
   >>   
   >>   - Provide very little power.    While there are some geographical   
   >>     areas with better insolation, solar panels even generate power on   
   >>     cloudy days, albeit less than on a sunny day.   
   >>   
   >>   - Constant cleaning.   Depends on climate, rain will wash most of   
   >>     the dust off.   I clean mine once a year during the dry season.   
   >>   
   >>   - I get wholesale rates for offsetting generation, and near-wholesale   
   >>     for excess generation (yes, the power companies are greedy, and for   
   >>     new connections, the excess generation isn't compensated as well as   
   >>     mine).   
   >   
   > It wasn't "wrong", although it does depend on where you are. Some places   
   > are better than others for any one or more of those problems,b ut they   
   > are real problems with solar panels.   
   >   
   > I did forget one problem ... solar panels look damn ugly. This creates   
   > another problem, since some people don't want to see the panels on their   
   > house from the road or from certain rooms, they put the panels in less   
   > than ideal locations, which of course again means less power generated.   
   >   
   >   
      
   	Beauty is in the eye or mind of the beholder.  I don' think solar   
   panels nor wind turbines are ugly.  I can smell the stink of petroleum   
   refineries from a distance and the smell of gasoline gives me chills.   
      
   	Plus there are more expensive commercial solar plants using   
   mirrors and boilers to drive steam turbines though water may not   
   be the working fluid.  The power produced in either case will be   
   stored in batteries or by pumping water uphill to come back down   
   through turbines.   
   	Apparently the brine protected by fresh water that the Israelis   
   have used is too sophisticated for the USA.   
   	Sun shines through the fresh water, heats the brine,   
   heat is extracted through the heat exchanger and drives   
   turbines.  Looks like a big pond with a fence around it to keep   
   out wild life and feral domestic animals.  Not for ducks  or other   
   migratory water birds which may be the reason it is not more   
   widely used.   
   	   
   	bliss   
   	   
   	   
      
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