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   Ted Nolan    
   Re: (ReacTor) Five Ways Science Fiction    
   03 Nov 25 18:57:12   
   
   From: ted@loft.tnolan.com   
      
   In article <10easo1$ht2$1@usenet.csail.mit.edu>,   
   Garrett Wollman  wrote:   
   >In article <10eaq8r$dh7$1@reader2.panix.com>,   
   >James Nicoll  wrote:   
   >>Five Ways Science Fiction Can Expand Beyond Homo sapiens   
   >>   
   >>Modern humans are fine, but what if we had a bit more variety in   
   >>our stories?   
   >>   
   >>https://reactormag.com/five-ways-science-fiction-can-expand-be   
   ond-homo-sapiens/   
   >   
   >The newsgroup has been way too quiet lately!  Let's have some   
   >discussion.   
   >   
   >1) In Julian May's "Saga of Pliocene Exile", a population of exiles   
   >from a far-away galaxy shows up on Pliocene earth in the proto-Rhone   
   >Valley.  Having similar reproductive biology to the extant hominins,   
   >and not being as successful at carrying their own babies to term, they   
   >experiment with using the local Ramapithecus (a now-obsolete taxon) as   
   >surrogate mothers.  Much to their surprise and joy, modern-human time   
   >travelers start passing through a one-way time-gate into their   
   >territory and they are somehow genetically compatible with the aliens   
   >and able to engender fertile hybrids.  Since they lack metapsychic   
   >powers (which are screened out by the operators of the time-gate) they   
   >are easily enslaved; those with special skills are integrated into the   
   >political structure... and one of them manages to make himself High   
   >King in the aftermath of the Zanclean Flood.  It is implied that this   
   >hybrid population survives until the arrival of modern humanity, and   
   >(a) is the source of the genes that will lead to set metapsychic   
   >powers arising among 20th-century humans, and (b) are the source of   
   >the legendary heroes of Irish mythology who IRL May based the   
   >characters on.   
   >   
   >2) In Graydon Saunders' (late of this newsgroup) Commonweal, one of   
   >the things dark-lord sorcerers seem to have loved doing over a hundred   
   >thousand years was invent people.  Many are humanoid, indeed many are   
   >derived from human stock (pulled out of an alternate past after   
   >humanity exterminated itself in an enormous global war).  Some others   
   >are unicorns (seven independently created species), kelpies, and other   
   >kinds of Dangerous Sapient Creatures we don't see in the five books   
   >published thus far.  The humanoids generally have similar anatomy (and   
   >at least some of them are seen to have sex) but are reproductively   
   >isolated.   
   >   
   >3) In Elf Sternberg's (late of this newsgroup) extended porny   
   >interstellar soap opera, the Journal Entries, the journaller of the   
   >title is a very horny libertarian bisexual geneticist with a fur   
   >fetish, and likes creating new species that he will later figure out   
   >how to have sex with.  In addition, there are also humanoid species   
   >elsewhere in the galaxy that he encounters and at times rescues from   
   >imminent social collapse.  (Sometimes the rescue is done   
   >retroactively, reconstructing a species from the genetic and cultural   
   >material they have left behind.)  Terran humans followed their own   
   >path to immortality which made them sterile, so any new humans are   
   >grown in vats, along with a couple of species they invent but don't   
   >really care much for.  Away from Terra, interspecies relationships are   
   >common, as is xenoparenting (which has its own scientific journal);   
   >some species are biologically capable of being surrogates for other   
   >species, which is aided by 12 of the species having had the same   
   >designer and been scaffolded on the same Terran evolutionary history.   
   >   
      
   Off the top of my head we have a number of post or non human humanish species   
   in fairly well known SF:   
      
   	Slans   
   	Baldies   
   	Iterloo   
   	Underpeople   
   	Draka   
   	Sime   
   	Children Of The Lens   
   	Eloi/Morlocks   
   	The Last Men   
      
      
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