From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 16:40:41 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
    wrote:   
      
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   >On 12/16/25 11:36, Christian Weisgerber wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-16, James Nicoll  wrote:   
   >>    
   >>> Hard Landing by Algis Budrys   
   >>> Starmen marooned in barbaric America!   
   >>>   
   >>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/castaway   
   >>    
   >> | There are oxygen-breathing and methane-breathing interstellar   
   >> | civilizations;   
   >>    
   >> BTW, where did this trope start?  It appears early in _Perry Rhodan_,   
   >> where genocidal wars between the two are part of the historical   
   >> background, but nothing is ever original in _PR_.   
   >   
   >	Methane breathers in the Lensman stories by Doc E.E. Smith.   
   >>    
   >> | I am not sure what the marsupial analog of a camel is.   
   >>    
   >> Something extinct. Possibly South American. ... A quick trawl of   
   >> Wikipedia doesn't net anything.  Maybe a confusion with some South   
   >> American native ungulates?  Those convergently evolved to resemble   
   >> extant ungulates--but they were placentals, not marsupials.   
   >>    
   >> | It’s not especially plausible but the story falls apart if the   
   >> | crew is purple, be-tentacled Things.   
   >>    
   >> But it would make the "life of debauchery and unsafe sex" so much   
   >> more intriguing!   
   >>    
   >   
   >	But complicated.   
      
   Oh, I don't know.   
      
   Two of the characters in /Galaxyquest/ didn't seem to have any   
   problems.   
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)