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From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid
On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 17:31:57 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
wrote:
>On 12/26/2025 1:39 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 08:48:17 -0500 (EST), kludge@panix.com (Scott
>>> Dorsey) wrote:
>>>
>>>> mess), but there's no tariff on board fab from Vietnam. Board fab is =
>>> kind of
>>>> an odd duck since most of the cost of board fab in the US and Vietnam is=
>>> =20
>>>> waste disposal, while in China they just drop all the heavy metal waste=20
>>>> into a sump in the basement. So it's very hard for anyone with sane=20
>>>> disposal laws to compete with the Chinese.
>>>
>>> Just thought I should point out that those "sane disposal laws" are
>>> /exactly/ the sort of thing rabid idealizers of unfettered capitalism
>>> oppose.
>>
>> Yes, and this is what governments exist for... to prevent the despoiling
>> of the commons.
>>
>> Right now we're still paying lots of money to clean up the waste from
>> industry in Pittsburgh back in the fifties. It's much cheaper to control
>> the waste today than to kick the can down the road, but since someone else
>> will be paying it later down the road corporations with a short-term
>> outlook don't care.
>>
>> Governments exist in part to deal with the long-term outlook.
>>
>>> Raw, unfettered, capitalism is, indeed, a bitch.
>>
>> I am very much in favor of capitalism... but it is in the best interest of
>> individual capitalists to eliminate competition and therefore eliminate
>> capitalism itself which is dependent on competition to work. This is why
>> it all collapses unless it has government support.
>>
>> I think what you mean by "raw, unfettered" is what is classically called
>> "laissez-faire."
>>
>>>> So, I do see some of these tariffs possibly pushing some production out
>>>> of China and into Vietnam and Thailand in the future, but I don't see it
>>>> doing anything other than hurting customers right now.
>>>
>>> If by "customers" you mean people in your situation (and you are,
>>> indeed, a customer), that's fine.=20
>>>
>>> But I am not reading articles stating "95% of MAGA rejects Trump's
>>> tariffs because they raise the price they have to pay at the store".=20
>>
>> It's raising the prices they have to pay at the store, and it is hurting
>> them. The fact that they aren't up in arms about it is a different issue.
>
>Largely because they think that they will actually be allowed to vote
>for someone OTHER than Trump in 2028. (Or whichever of his successors
>survives the knives if Trump dies before then.)
Except for the true-red MAGAs, of course.
And those MAGA-sheeple who are upset but blame Soros.
The Republican Party can still survive, if it impeaches/convicts/bars
from future office Trump (the latter two will require as assist from a
few Democratic Senators) and hope that Vance can repair enough of the
damage done to satisfy enough voters.
In the unlikely event that the Republicans are smart enough to do
this, I would suggest Vance give the DOinJ, the DHinS in general and
ICE in particular a really good wedgie [1] to get them back on track.
They don't have much time. Things would probably need to be clearly
turning around by June, and the wedgies finished by September.
[1] As ATF is said to have gotten after Ruby Ridge and Waco. It is my
believe that /every/ gummint agency could do with a good wedgie from
time to time.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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