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   Bobbie Sellers to Paul S Person   
   Re: R.I.P. Erich von D?niken, 90   
   16 Jan 26 08:56:27   
   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 1/16/26 08:42, Paul S Person wrote:   
   > On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 15:23:00 +0100, "Mickmane"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 16.01.26, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de   wrote:   
   >>> "Mickmane"  wrote or quoted:   
   >>   
   >>>> Yeah, but I'd rather stick with crazy hair guy (people know who I   
   >>>> mean, and he didn't mind the hair reference in some episode) than   
   >>>> trying to spell the name correctly. :)   
   >>   
   >>>    People have long used messy or "wild" hair as a visual shorthand   
   >>>    for a disordered or unusual mind, and phrases like "bird's nest   
   >>>    in one's hair" grow out of that older association of tangled hair   
   >>>    with neglect, eccentricity, and madness.   
   >>   
   >> Blame Albert Einstein, or someone before him?   
   >   
   > In one of his plays, Aristophanes portrays Socrates with some of the   
   > features of a "mad scientist", such as a robe and (IIRC) a funny hat.   
   > He might or might not also have had tangled hair (in the play).   
   >   
   > If you are thinking Aristophanes is rather far back there, consider:   
   >   
   > 1. In one play, a country bumpkin sells two pigs in a bag to a   
   > desperate city dweller (desperate because the Peloponnesian War is   
   > hindering the supply chain). When he takes it home and opens it, the   
   > bumpkin's daughter pop out and run away. Hence "a pig in a poke" for   
   > buying something you cannot see.   
   >   
   > When I bought our new oil furnace, it quickly became apparent that I   
   > was, effectively, buying a pig in a poke. That is, all I really had to   
   > work on was a sales pitch. By a salesman who didn't know much about   
   > the product.   
      
   	   
   >   
   > To be fair, it was installed and it still works nearly 20 years later.   
   > But, still, lingering dissatisfaction with how it was sold makes me   
   > hesitant to move to a heat pump, which will, no doubt, involve Yet   
   > Another Sales Talk By Someone Selling Something He Knows Little About.   
   >   
   > Three of them, if it seems prudent to get three bids and compare them.   
      
   	Or seek for consumer information on Heat Pumps online.   
   	Like this: Heat pumps consumer information   
   Consumer Reports®   
      
      
   >   
   > 2. /The Birds/, the play with Socrates in it per Wikipedia, is the   
   > first known instance of Cloud Cuckoo Land, the aerial kingdom of the   
   > birds.   
   >   
   > 3. He also wrote /Lysistrata/, in which the women of Athens and Sparta   
   > try to stop the war by going on a sexual strike, only to find they   
   > their desire is stronger than that of their husbands. It's produced a   
   > number of plays and movies.   
      
   	Aristophanes was the best.   
   	   
   	bliss   
      
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