From: g@crcomp.net   
      
   Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   > Don wrote:   
   >   
   >>     GALILEO by Carroll   
   >>     ...   
   >>     There was a conflict between Galileo and the Inquisition,   
   >>     but it was a conflict between those who shared common   
   >>     first principles about the nature of scientific truth   
   >>     and the complementarity between science and religion.   
   >   
   > There is only “complementarity” between science and religion if you   
   > believe that there is some kind of “complementarity” between paying   
   > attention to evidence and disregarding it.   
   >   
   >>     In the absence of scientific knowledge that the Earth   
   >>     moves, Galileo was required to affirm that it did not.   
   >>     However unwise it was to insist on such a requirement,   
   >>     the Inquisition did not ask Galileo to choose between   
   >>     science and faith.   
   >   
   > He was shown the instruments of torture. If that’s not asking him to   
   > make a choice (in a not-so-subtle way, at that), I don’t know what is.   
      
   Careful there, lest you look like a Voltaire thumping scientistic   
   disciple who buys this bush-league bullscat:   
      
          
      
   In regards to enlightened Galileo mythology:   
      
       Dishonest, revisionist, secular and dogmatic 18th and 19th   
       century historians commonly viewed 'The Affair' as a conflict   
       between science and faith.  At the height of 'The Enlightenment'   
       which birthed 'The Science', we have for example Voltaire who   
       propagated the lie that Galileo ended his life in a prison,   
       subject to torture: "groan[ing] away his days in the dungeons   
       of the Inquisition, because he had demonstrated by irrefragable   
       proofs the motion of the earth" (in fact, the famous scientist   
       was well treated by the authorities [1])   
       Voltaire's appraisal is the standard belief for most people.   
      
      
      
   Note.   
      
   [1] Numbers, Ronald L. Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths about   
       Science and Religion. Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 2009.   
      
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