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   Titus G to Cryptoengineer   
   Re: Adventures in the Public Domain: On    
   22 Jan 26 17:20:22   
   
   From: noone@nowhere.com   
      
   On 22/01/26 16:58, Cryptoengineer wrote:   
   > On 1/21/2026 10:02 PM, Titus G wrote:   
   >> On 22/01/26 14:34, William Hyde wrote:   
   >>> James Nicoll wrote:   
   >>>> Adventures in the Public Domain: On Updating Out-of-Copyright Works   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Should we attempt to bring older works into the modern age?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> https://reactormag.com/adventures-in-the-public-domain-on-updating-   
   >>>> out-of-copyright-works/   
   >>>>   
   >>> I myself am much more interested in the recent phenomenon of   
   >>> "downdating", in which a modern novel is set in the past.   
   >>>   
   >>> Most of you, of course, will be familiar with Sir Steven Fry's "The   
   >>> Stars' Tennis Balls", a classic tale of false imprisonment and revenge.   
   >>   
   >> I am not. Because I was impressed with Fry from television, I tried to   
   >> read this decades ago but vaguely recall that I didn't get very far.   
   >>   
   >>> But just in case you are not, a recap.  A young man, about to be   
   >>> married, is given a note by a trusted older friend.  This friend, alas   
   >>> is involved with an underground group much frowned upon by the powers   
   >>> that be.  Through  the machinations of various "friends" the government   
   >>> is given cause to investigate our protagonist, who is whisked away to an   
   >>> "insane asylum" on a remote island (were we to update rather than   
   >>> downdate this novel, it would be a black ops site in Tajikistan).   
   >>>   
   >>> With the aid of an older, wiser, but unhealthy fellow prisoner, our hero   
   >>> escapes, becomes rich, and proceeds to a long process of revenge on   
   >>> those responsible for his incarceration, one of whom has married his   
   >>> fiancee.   
   >>>   
   >>> A young French author of much promise has downdated this novel, cleverly   
   >>> substituting the Bonapartist cause for the IRA, a Swiss bank account for   
   >>> a buried hoard of treasure, and an ancient stone prison for the asylum.   
   >>>   
   >>> It was not so easy for an unknown man to enter high society in the early   
   >>> 1800s (today all it takes is money) but the author handles the   
   >>> prisoner's entry very well.  In fact the whole society of early to mid   
   >>> 1800s France is rendered with staggering accuracy.  I was unable to find   
   >>> a false note.  He must have spent years in research.   
   >>>   
   >>> The process of revenge runs in parallel with that in Fry's novel.   
   >>> Without the internet it cannot be an exact parallel, but the author   
   >>> works very well with the mechanisms of 19th century finance and   
   >>> venality.  The basics of corruption do not change over time.   
   >>>   
   >>> These are darker times than the era in which Fry's masterpiece was   
   >>> written.  So one change our updater does make is to the ending.  Whereas   
   >>> Fry's hero, revenge accomplished, faces at best a lonely future, our   
   >>> downdated hero, while deprived of his one true love, finds a second,   
   >>> much younger, love, and  resumes his intended life path as a husband and   
   >>> presumably father.  An older but much richer one.   
   >>>   
   >>> I for one will be looking out for new books by young M. Dumas.  He has a   
   >>> great career ahead of him.   
   >>>   
   >>> William Hyde   
   >>   
   >> Based on your summary it appears that the clever Fry has downdated   
   >> Bester's The Stars My Destination, which was first published sometime in   
   >> the 25th Century.   
   >   
   > I may be being Mr. Obvious here, but isn't the Bester based on The Count   
   > of Monte Cristo?   
   >   
      
   I suspect William Hyde's young M. Dumas is Alexandre Dumas.   
      
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