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   Cryptoengineer to Scott Lurndal   
   Re: (ReacTor) Side-Eyeing Science Fictio   
   22 Jan 26 16:48:19   
   
   From: petertrei@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/22/2026 1:09 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:   
   > Torbjorn Lindgren  writes:   
   >> Christian Weisgerber   wrote:   
   >>> On 2026-01-19, Lynn McGuire  wrote:   
   >>>> I am horribly wondering if the tritium in Russia's ICBMs is still good.   
   >>>   
   >>> Tritium has a civilian market.  *Glances at watch face*  So there's   
   >>> incentive to syphon off tritium and sell it.  That said, as far as   
   >>> I know, a tritium-boosted warhead will still explode without tritium,   
   >>> it just has a lower yield.   
   >>   
   >> Yeah and also sell of the replacement instead of putting it in a ICBM.   
   >> Similar to how say a lot of Russion body armor turned out to either   
   >> not actually exist or the expensive parts had been sold off and   
   >> replaced by inferior products (like egg crates).   
   >>   
   >> Getting back to what would happen - the main decay product of tritium   
   >> is He-3 which has a very large neutron capture cross-section - meaning   
   >> it acts as a "poison" for the nuclear reaction rather than boosting   
   >> it. This is why the bomb has to be flushed and then refilled, not just   
   >> topped up.   
   >>   
   >> So it's not just the lack of boosting, the resulting He-3 actively   
   >> removes neutrons needed for fission to happen. We also have to   
   >> remember that 1960+ era nuclear weapon from US/Russia/China uses WAY   
   >> less fissile material than the old non-boosted designs. So that's two   
   >> factors working against it.   
   >>   
   >> I wouldn't be surprised if at least in case of severe poisoning it   
   >> could (often?) end up as a non-nuclear dirty bomb - but this is just   
   >> based on informed reasoning rather than actual calculations so could   
   >> be completely wrong.   
   >>   
   >> There's more than enough public information that someone could do the   
   >> calculation for various known warheads and find out if there's a point   
   >> beyond where fission can be sustained on each design but I'm not up to   
   >> that. I fully expect a number of countries have done these   
   >> calculations.   
   >>   
   >> Would I want to RELY on them not exploding though? Nope, especially   
   >> not ALL of them not exploding.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> There's the question how much the delivery systems have deteriorated,   
   >>> e.g. whether the ICBMs would still make it out of the silo.  But   
   >>> Russia has a lot of nuclear-capable delivery systems--all the   
   >>> ballistic and cruise missles they shoot at Ukraine are   
   >>> nuclear-capable--so I expect they would be able to field _some_   
   >>> working ones.   
   >>   
   >> The three consecutive RS-28 Sarmat testing failures doesn't exactly   
   >> fill you with confidence in their newest ICBMs. AFAIK it's only been   
   >> tested successfully once, the initial test that lead them to declare   
   >> it "operational". There was some successful partial tests before that   
   >> though.   
   >>   
   >> Still, that's a 75% failure rate on "full tests". And that abysmal   
   >> failure rate is on test flights where they have the luxury of waiting   
   >> and fixing things until there's no known problems instead of "we need   
   >> to launch NOW"...   
   >>   
   >> Yes, they have older R-36M (being retired and replaced by RS-28) and a   
   >> bunch of other ICBM and IRBM systems so SOME will undoubtedly fly.   
   >> Very hard to tell how many, I suspect that Russia has no idea either   
   >> (though they may think they have).   
   >   
   > They also have the UR-100N (AKA RS-18A, NATO SS-19) with a hypersonic   
   > glide vehicle as the payload.  The glide vehicle travels   
   > at mach 20+; alone without a warhead; the glide vehicle   
   > impact is equivalent to 42,000 pounds of TNT (at Mach 25) even if the   
   > nuclear payload is missing or fails to detonate.   
   >   
   > The Zircon nuclear capable hypersonic cruise missile is another   
   > potential delivery vehicle, although the Ukranians claim to have   
   > intercepted them with Patriot missiles.   
      
   Wikipedia agrees about the claimed speeds for the Avengard hypersonic   
   vehicle.   
      
   However, I have questions as to whether Mach 25 is achievable in a glide   
   vehicle - LEO orbital velocity is about Mach 18. How are you going   
   to make the vehicle go down?   
      
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