From: alan@sabir.com   
      
   On 2026-02-06, Paul S Person  wrote:   
   > On 6 Feb 2026 15:25:41 GMT, Chris Buckley  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 2026-02-05, Titus G  wrote:   
   >>> On 05/02/2026 03:22, Chris Buckley wrote:   
   >>> snip   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes, the outspoken "liberals" have driven out almost everybody who has   
   >>>> different opinions than they have. (And what "pointless arguments" are   
   >>>> you talking about?)   
   >>>   
   >>> Political arguments. The political arguments here don't seem to achieve   
   >>> anything except drive away people who in the main had contributed to the   
   >>> SF discussion.   
   >>   
   >>I'm not sure what definition of "political argument" you mean here.   
   >>If you mean that politics as a whole should not be mentioned, then   
   >>that seems unrealistic. If you mean "2 or more people arguing about   
   >>politics", then Congratulations! You're well on the way to achieving   
   >>that by driving out the people you disagree with. If you discourage folks   
   >>from objecting to the many counter-factual statements that some liberals   
   >>post here, then you've successfully reduced the number of arguments!   
   >>   
   >>You seem to be taking the position that it's OK to personally attack those   
   >>you disagree with, calling them names and insulting them with "racist" or   
   >>"dishonest" but you don't approve of using facts to contradict their   
   arguments.   
   >>Sorry, but I strongly believe the reverse.   
   >>   
   >>If the sentiment of the group is that only liberals are allowed to post   
   >>freely about politics, all others must be discouraged, then I will obey the   
   >>sentiment of the group. But I don't believe that is the case.  Is it?   
   >   
   > Not as far as I am concerned.   
   >   
   > However, if you that only (some) liberals post counter-factual   
   > statements -- that is, that /no/ conservatives post counter-factual   
   > statements -- you are deceiving yourself.   
   >   
   > As I have noted before, there are wing-nuts on /all/ sides.   
      
   Yes, I agree 100% with that statement.   
      
   I make mistakes on occasion and Lynn definitely posts items I disagree   
   with.  But in the restricted context of political arguments in this group,   
   I would point out that Lynn doesn't generally engage in political   
   argument; he makes political statements but then drops the thread. I'm   
   sort of the reverse. I engage in political argument but the political   
   statements I make (which may or may not be counter-factual) are pretty   
   much all in the context of those existing arguments. From my perspective,   
   there are very few political arguments started by conservative   
   counter-factual statements here.   
      
   Chris   
      
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