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   Stefan Ram to a425couple@hotmail.com   
   [long]Re: Could someone please search fo   
   10 Feb 26 15:53:14   
   
   From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de   
      
   a425couple  wrote or quoted:   
   >Could someone please search for my post about "starglider" ?   
   >Please search this group, or perhaps alt.astronomy   
      
     Here are some posts from this here group I found with URIs veiled   
     by me:   
      
   | |"a425couple"  wrote in message ...   
   | |> In the last year or so I've read a number of   
   | |> Arthur Clarke books.   
   | |> iuuqt;00fo/xjljqfejb/psh0xjlj0Uif`Gpvoubjot`pg`Qbsbejtf   
   | |> This one was written in 1979.   
   | |> For my tastes, I'd just give this a middle rating.   
   | |> I did not like the first part that dealt with thousand   
   | |> year old reigns & battles (much of the first 36 / 46 pages)   
   | |> I also did not care for the last 5 pages of a different life   
   | |> form, thousands of years in the future.   
   | |> But the part dealing with engineer Vannevar Morgan   
   | |> building the space elevator was quite fine.   
   | |   
   | |One unrelated 'side story' that I found very interesting,   
   | |and quite informative about Arthur Clarke's true opinions,   
   |#|was a couple short chapters dealing with "starglider".   
   | |"Starglider" is a space vehicle made and launched   
   | |20,000 years ago by a very advanced extraterestial species.   
   | |They keep up communication with it (due to distance this is   
   | |many year delayed) and it is intended to be an explorer,   
   | |reporter and ambasador for them.  Basicly "Starglider"   
   | |can not understand why any species believes in 'God'.   
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   a425couple on 2016-02-29 18:31:00+00:00 in rec.arts.sf.written,   
   Subject: Clarke's "The Fountains of Paradise"   
      
   |#|Not quite Rama, or starglider, but????   
   | |   
   | |Visitor from Far, Far Away: Interstellar Object Spotted in Our Solar System   
   | |By Mike Wall, Space.com Senior Writer | October 26, 2017 04:52pm ET   
   | |27 4  MORE   
      
      --------------------------   
      
   | |Best Close Encounters of the Comet Kind   
   | |   
   | |iuuqt;00xxx/tqbdf/dpn049691.joufstufmmbs.pckfdu.tqpuufe.dpnfu   
   btufspje.nztufsz/iunm   
   '-----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   a425couple on 2017-10-27 00:10:25+00:00 in rec.arts.sf.written,   
   Subject: Not quite Rama, or starglider, but????   
      
   | |On 10/26/2017 4:10 PM, a425couple wrote:   
   | |> Not quite Rama, or starglider, but????   
   | |>   
   | |> Visitor from Far, Far Away: Interstellar Object Spotted in Our Solar   
   System   
   | |> By Mike Wall, Space.com Senior Writer | October 26, 2017 04:52pm ET   
   | |> Visitor from Far, Far Away: Interstellar Object Spotted in Our Solar   
   System   
   | |> Diagram showing the path of A/2017 U1 — an object likely of interstellar   
   | |> origin — through the inner solar system. A/2017 U1 made its closest   
   | |> approach to the sun on Sept. 9 and is now zooming away 97,200 mph   
   | |> (156,400 km/h) relative to the sun.   
   | |> Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech   
   | |> A visitor from interstellar space has likely been spotted in our solar   
   | |> system for the first time ever.   
   | |>   
   | |> iuuqt;00xxx/tqbdf/dpn049691.joufstufmmbs.pckfdu.tqpuufe.dpn   
   u.btufspje.nztufsz/iunm   
   | |   
   | |In case some reader is curious about my title,   
   | |written sci-fi references, they are from:   
   | |   
   | |iuuqt;00fo/xjljqfejb/psh0xjlj0Sfoef{wpvt`xjui`Sbnb   
   | |"The "Rama" of the title is an alien starship, initially mistaken   
   | |for an asteroid categorised as "31/439". It is detected by   
   | |astronomers in the year 2131 while it is still outside the orbit   
   | |of Jupiter. Its speed (100,000 km/h) and the angle of its   
   | |trajectory clearly indicate it is not on a long orbit around   
   | |the sun, but comes from interstellar space."   
   | |   
   | |iuuqt;00fo/xjljqfejb/psh0xjlj0Uif`Gpvoubjot`pg`Qbsbejtf   
   | |"In the middle of The Fountains of Paradise, an unmanned   
   |#|robotic spaceship of alien origin, called "Starglider/Starholme"   
   | |by Clarke, passes through our solar system. This situation is similar   
   | |to Rendezvous with Rama, though the ship exterior and its   
   | |interactions with humans is very different."   
   | |   
   | |Perhaps it is 'broadcasting', but we just are not properly listening?!!   
   | |   
   | |Unlike in the two books, we sure do not have anything   
   | |that could approach A/2017 U1 for a close up view.   
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   a425couple on 2017-10-27 00:30:51+00:00 in rec.arts.sf.written,   
   Subject: Not quite Rama, or starglider, but????   
      
   | |On 11/1/2017 10:14 PM, Quadibloc wrote:   
   | |> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 4:44:14 PM UTC-6, Brian (Default User)   
   wrote:   
      
      --------------------------   
      
   | |> John Savard   
   | |>   
   | |What is wrong with just hoping and planning to do it   
   |#|with a "starglider" type computer controlled ship   
   | |that maintains contact with us?   
   | |Let it be our scout, publicist & ambassador.   
   | |("Fountains of Paradise" by Arthur Clarke)   
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   a425couple on 2017-11-04 00:49:33+00:00 in rec.arts.sf.written,   
   Subject: OT - true: Where Are All the Intelligent Aliens?   
      
   | |On 11/3/2017 9:59 PM, Quadibloc wrote:   
   | |> On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 5:50:28 PM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:   
   | |>   
   | |>> What is wrong with just hoping and planning to do it   
   | |>> with a "starglider" type computer controlled ship   
   | |>> that maintains contact with us?   
   | |>> Let it be our scout, publicist & ambassador.   
   | |>   
   | |> I've excluded that as a possibility because it is based on one unproven   
   assumption:   
   | |> that intelligent life is common out there.   
   | |   
   | |I really disagree with that opinion.   
   | |   
   |#|The "starglider" plan is a reasonable step towards finding out   
   | |if there is, or is not, intelligent life out there.   
   | |(Skip down to the end of your posting)   
   | |   
   | |> If we lived in a Star Trek-style universe, where just about all the   
   inhabitable   
   | |> planets are taken, that would be a very reasonable possibility.   
   | |> However, if we live in a largely empty universe, where we could reasonably   
   | |> expect to have at least a few thousand of the nearest star systems all to   
   | |> ourselves - which is actually *compatible* with habitable planets being   
   likely   
   | |> to have intelligent life, as most star systems won't necessarily have a   
      
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