From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Fri, 13 Feb 2026 17:21:19 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)   
   wrote:   
      
   >Paul S Person  writes:   
   >>On Thu, 12 Feb 2026 12:28:31 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>On 2/12/26 09:27, Stefan Ram wrote:   
   >>>> Ignatios Souvatzis  wrote or quoted:   
   >>>>> At least from the Middle-eastern monotheistic ones, easily: an =   
   >>all-knowing,   
   >>>>> all-observing God isn't possible with a finite speed of light.   
   >>>>=20   
   >>>>    Well, once one starts to assume something for which there are   
   >>>>    no observations ("god"), one then can as well assume that he   
   >>>>    is all-knowing by some kind of magic that does not need light.   
   >>>>=20   
   >>>>=20   
   >>>   
   >>>	Well part of God is in this Universe and part in the place/time/region   
   >>>from which the materials for the Big Bang emerged. God is everywhere in   
   >>>this universe and in everything to keep it in existence.  If you want to=   
   >>=20   
   >>>believe   
   >>>in a God which is sort of not needed in most science aside from =   
   >>Theology.   
   >>   
   >>That is probably the most cogent statement of transendent and   
   >>imminanent I have seen in a long time. Also the Ground of Being   
   >>concept. But the usual doctrine is creation /ex nihilo/, "out of   
   >>nothing", so no materials required.   
   >   
   >It does, however, raise the question of where and how that   
   >'place/time/region' itself was created und so weiter ad infinitum.   
      
   What I said doesn't; there is no "place/time/region from which the   
   materials for the Big Bang emerged" when creation is from -- nothing.   
      
   Don't need a place to store nothing.   
      
   But don't let me interrupt your ranting.   
       
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
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