From: quadibloc@ca.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 22 Feb 2026 03:38:49 +0000, quadi wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 21:29:17 +0000, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:   
   >   
   >> The scientific question is: does this work both ways? Can you use   
   >> particular aspects of human character or human affairs, not as yet   
   >> accounted for by the influence of any known planets, to predict the   
   >> existence of new, as-yet-undiscovered ones?   
   >   
   > Some astrologers have actually tried to do just this. Of course, their   
   > efforts were not met with the kind of success that would be needed for   
   > astrology to prove itself valid and worthy of respect.   
   >   
   > I refer you to Charles Jayne's book, The Unknown Planets.   
      
   I hasten to add that because most astrologers are lazy, preferring to   
   follow the rules set down by Claudius Ptolemaeus without question to doing   
   any empirical research, most hypothetical planets had their orbital   
   elements obtained either by a mistaken observation by a real astronomer,   
   or through a psychic vision.   
      
   However, some astrologers have been energetic enough to conduct   
   statistical studies - usually just to "prove" astrology is valid, but   
   there have been attempts to detect unknown planets in this way.   
      
   These attempts are best recorded in the book Recent Advances in Natal   
   Astrology: A Critical Review 1900-1976 by Geoffrey Dean and Arthur Mather.   
      
   John Savard   
      
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