XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.conspiracy, alt.atheism
From: Kenito@Benito.Het
On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 17:15:47 -0500, Attila wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Dec 2025 05:56:18 -0800, Kenito Benito
> in alt.atheism with message-id
><4hgqkk1n5jao24nei33e4n9tj7u3q1moqi@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 12:26:07 -0500, Attila wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 07:39:07 -0800, Kenito Benito
>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:28:15 -0800, Samuel Spade
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Attila wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 15:33:48 -0800, Kenito Benito
>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 06:11:13 -0500, Attila wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >[Snip to focus on Attila's hypocrisy.]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> Just what is your goal? Do you wish to stop deportations of
>>>>>> >>>> illegals?
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Yes.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>What other violations of the law do you wish to ignore?
>>>>>> >>Kidnapping? Drug dealing? Murder?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Deportations are not only legal but required under current
>>>>>> >>law.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So is due process. But you want that ignored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not an attorney and I do not know the legal
>>>>>> requirements for due process.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Start studying.
>>>>>
>>>>>As Dylan said, you don't have to be a weather man to
>>>>>know what way the wind is blowing.
>>>>
>>>> It's almost funny how Attila cries out how illegals are violating
>>>>the law (in fairness, they are violating immigration law).
>>>
>>>And under those laws they are subject to immediate
>>>deportation.
>>
>> AFTER a deportation hearing. This is the part you consistently
>>PROVE you don't like.
>
>There was no hearing needed for them to invade, and I don't
>like the time frame needed to process over 10 million
>illegals. If the process can be speeded up I would have no
>problem with it but I don't like the idea of someone
>managing to game the system and staying here illegally for
>years simply because the courts are co clogged up they can't
>clear the cases fast enough.
>
Then lobby for an amendment eliminating/limiting due process, or
file a writ of certiorari with the Supreme Court and present your
argument for the limiting of due process to only those who are
citizens.
>>
>>>Are you saying the immigration laws do not require illegal
>>>deportation?
>>
>> Require? No. But they do require a hearing so that the government
>>can prove the people are here illegally and allow the accused to
>>present counter evidence showing they are here legally. Without this,
>>*you* could be deported.
>
>If they are here legally they should have documents to prove
>this. The documents must be verified.
>
But you've PROVED you do not want this. I can post the MIDs where
you make this clear, if you suddenly have memory issues.
>>>> But when
>>>>challenged on his hypocrisy about application of the law (the
>>>>requirement for due process), he suddenly doesn't actually know the
>>>>law.
>>>
>>>That is your opinion.
>>
>> Facts are not opinion.
>>
>>>I think the law is fair and should be
>>>applied just as any other law is applied.
>>
>> You're lying. You think due process should be ignored, even
>>though the law requires it.
>
>See my comment on this above.
>
See my exposing your deception above.
>>>If it is violated
>>>the penalty should be paid. No hypocrisy in involved. Just
>>>as a light is on or off or a woman is pregnant or not
>>>pregnant, a person who is in the US is here legally or not
>>>legally. If not legally they should be removed from the
>>>country immediately.
>>
>> AFTER it has been proved they're here illegally. This is the part
>>you conveniently "forget."
>
>See above.
>
See my exposing your deception above.
>One solution would be several hundred temporary courts to
>only handle these cases. It would be expensive but cheaper
>than supporting them.
>
>The laws against hiring illegal should be strengthened and
>rigidly enforced with major fines for violations and all
>government support and welfare should be ended at once.
Please cite applicable law that allows illegals to receive
welfare. If you're simply being dishonest (you are), you will either
run away from the truth, or attempt to divert from it.
>All
>social security cards should be voided and no more issued.
Why? Presumably you're a citizen with a Social Security card. Why
would you want yours voided? Since illegal aliens cannot get one, that
can't be the issue.
>
>If such payments are continued by any local or state
>governments all federal money direct or indirect for those
>governments should be stopped.
>
In order to continue, they must begin. How do you not understand
this?
>>>> One doesn't need to be a lawyer to understand due process.
>>>>Applicable law is very clear. If someone is facing deportation, a
>>>>deportation hearing is required so that the prosecution, representing
>>>>the people of the United States, can prove just cause for deportation.
>>>
>>>No cause is necessary since federal law is being violated by
>>>the fact that the person is physically in the US without
>>>legal status. The only issue to be decided is their exact
>>>status.
>>
>> But you keep PROVING you do not want that. You just want people
>>rounded up and deported.
>
>Illegals? Absolutely.
>
But WITHOUT any hearing to establish that they are here
illegally. Why, exactly, do you HATE the protections ensured by the US
Constitution? I want you to answer honestly, but know you will play
avoidance games. Or you will run away from the question.
>> I wish you well when you are cause by ICE and
>>deported without any chance to challenge the claim that you're here
>>illegally.
>
>Considering the numbers involved I am more than willing to
>take my chances.
Enjoy your stay at CECOT.
--
Kenito Benito
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.
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