From: atropos@mac.com
On Dec 28, 2025 at 8:28:18 PM PST, "Pluted Pup"
wrote:
> On 12/20/25 8:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> The area where the Palisades Fire initially started was in Topanga Park--
>> state land-- a week before the wall of fire that consumed the town.
>> Plaintiffs
>> attorneys were finally able to obtain-- via court order-- a document from
>> the
>> State of California's parks Department entitled "Topanga Park Wildfire
>> Mitigation Plan", which states:
>>
>> The intent of this wildlife management plan is to provide a
>> framework for
>>
>> (1) Preventing unwanted wildfire events through fuel modification
>> and planning, and
>>
>> (2) Protecting unique landscapes and enhancing wildlife habitat
>> through vegetation management.
>>
>> Recognizing that fire is nature's way of creating renewal in forest
>> lands and occasional burns are necessary to preserve ecosystems,
>> unless specified otherwise, State Parks prefers to let Topanga State
>> Park burn in a wildfire event.
>>
>> Topanga State Park has 26 special status plant species and 21
>> special status animal species. The area covered by Topanga State
>> Park has not burned in more than 50 years. To restore the natural
>> fire frequency and chaparral habitats, Topanga State Park should be
>> left to burn within reasonable public safety limits and outside of
>> fire
>> exclusion zones. State park officials, not fire officials, will determine
>> what reasonable public safety limits are.
>>
>> Avoidance Areas-- Avoidance areas are where no heavy equipment,
>> vehicles, or flame retardant are permitted to be used to fight a wildfire.
>>
>> This is why, when LAFD brought in bulldozers to work the remaining hotspots
>> after the January 1 fire was mostly extinguished, a state park official
>> vetoed
>> it and told them no further work was allowed due to presence of the
>> endangered
>> milk vetch plant. A week later, under high winds, the smoldering area
>> reignited and became a blazing inferno that consumed Pacific Palisades.
>>
>> The neighborhoods of Casta la Mare and Palisades Highlands
>> lie along the southern border of Topanga State Park. These
>> neighborhoods are at significant risk during a wildfire event. When
>> wildfire poses a threat, suppression techniques, especially with
>> heavy equipment, are the main concern due to their effect on
>> special status flora and fauna and should be avoided in these areas.
>>
>> So they *expressly* acknowledge the danger to these residential areas and
>> nevertheless made it official state policy-- written down in a policy
>> manual--
>> that little to no firefighting equipment or techniques would be allowed to
>> be
>> employed in those areas in the event of a wildfire. They purposely
>> prioritized
>> the survival of some weeds and rodents over the property and lives of the
>> residents of the area.
>>
>> Avoidance areas should be shared with Incident Command but
>> measures should be taken to keep the information confidential.
>>
>> In other words, we don't want the public-- especially the residents of
these
>> neighborhoods-- to know we're sacrificing their homes and perhaps even
their
>> lives to preserve a weed whose absence no one would even notice if it
>> disappeared tomorrow.
>>
>> What happened on January 7th was a direct result of Gavin Newsom's state
>> park
>> policy on dealing with wildfires. Apparently to the residents of the
>> Palisades, it was reasonable to Gavin Newsom's administration to let the
>> whole
>> town burn in order to save some scrub plants.
>>
>> When Gavin runs for president, anyone who challenges him, should throw this
>> in
>> his face and make him explain why his government let 7000 homes burn and 12
>> people die by turning away firefighters and forbidding them from putting
out
>> the fire when they had the chance in order to protect an ugly weed. And
>> while
>> they're at it, ask why he set up such an idiotic system in the first place
>> where park rangers have veto authority over trained firefighters at the
>> scenes
>> of dangerous wildfires.
>
> I don't know the specifics here, but milkvetch is no ugly weed:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragalus_(plant)
LOL! For the handful of days per year when it blooms. Otherwise, it's an ugly
scrub plant. In any event, beauty is in the eye of the beholder but no matter
how 'beautiful' a plant may be, it should never take priority over human life
or thousands of homes.
> In a similar situation of state mismanagement, A Gavin Newsom policy
> a few years ago for Northern California was/is to refuse to allow
> reservoirs to retain water until November 15 or 18 each year, and this
> during the drought. So during heavy rains early in November, enough to
> flood the bathrooms of a nearby public park to about 12 feet, was
> allowed to escape downrivers and when November 15 or 18 came the rains
> stopped, and soon Northern Californians got mass notices to save water
> because we were in a drought and the reservoirs were low!
They routinely flush billions of gallons of freshwater per year into the ocean
in the name of protecting a Central Valley mud slug that scientists say will
go extinct no matter what we do. All while declaring states of emergency over
droughts and telling us to limit the number of showers per week we take to
save water.
Hey, here's a thought, Gavin, you monstrous retard: how about not flushing
most of the state's fresh water into the ocean every year? Ever think of
that?
Fuck, that guy is the poster child for failing upward. All he really has going
for him is a square jaw and Hollywood hair and somehow he keeps getting
elected and re-elected.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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