From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Jan 3, 2026 at 2:36:28 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
      
   > On 1/3/2026 4:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>  On Jan 3, 2026 at 12:24:41 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman""    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>  BTR1701  wrote:   
   >>>>  Jan 3, 2026 2:53:42 AM PST, shawn :   
   >>>   
   >>>>>  Looks like we went to war last night with Venezuela.   
   >>>>>  Multiple bombs were dropped in Caracas centered on the military   
   >>>>>  installations. Then there were multiple helicopters sent in,   
   >>>>>  apparently to drop off troops to capture Maduro. It's unknown   
   >>>>>  if that was the sole purpose of this attack or if there is more to   
   >>>>>  come.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>  At least it looks like the bombing has stopped. Trump is supposed to   
   >>>>>  hold a press conference at 11AM. That's when we should find out just   
   >>>>>  what was the intent of this attack and if removing Maduro is the end   
   >>>>>  of it.   
   >>>   
   >>>>  I'm ambivalent about all this. Maduro is a monster who was legitimately   
   >>>>  indicted for actual crimes and he deserved to go down. His flirting with   
   >>>>  Iran and China just sealed that deal. But I really wish Trump didn't   
   >>>>  spend his entire press conference basically saying, "Now we've got all   
   >>>>  that oil and now we're going to make so much money." I mean, even if   
   >>>>  that's why you did all this, show a little PR sense and focus on stuff   
   >>>>  like "Now the people of the Venezuela are free and we'll be working on   
   >>>>  rebuilding the democracy that existed before Maduro and Chavez and making   
   >>>>  sure those who are starving get fed", etc. etc. 'Cause right now it just   
   >>>>  looks like you took over a sovereign nation to steal their resources.   
   >>>   
   >>>  Even if there is a narcotrafficking case to be made, don't the people of   
   >>>  Venezuala deserve the opportunity to prosecute this asshole?   
   >>   
   >>  Well, if we're going with what the people of Venezuela want, they were   
   >> dancing   
   >>  in the streets with joy over the news of Maduro's capture and rendition.   
   >   
   > Are you sure?  Wasn't the toppling of Saddam's statue staged?   
      
   Yes, I'm sure Trump went down to Doral, Florida and all the other places in   
   the country where Venezuelan ex-pats have gathered and put on staged   
   celebrations.     
      
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