From: NoBody@nowhere.com   
      
   On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 04:10:12 -0500, Ubiquitous    
   wrote:   
      
   >In article <10jcq4m$1okcl$1@dont-email.me>, atropos@mac.com wrote:   
   >> On Jan 3, 2026 at 7:54:42 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
   >>> On 1/3/2026 5:51 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>  On Jan 3, 2026 at 2:36:28 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
   >>>>>  On 1/3/2026 4:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>>>  "Adam H. Kerman"  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>    BTR1701  wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>    I'm ambivalent about all this. Maduro is a monster who was   
   legitimately   
   >>>>>>>>    indicted for actual crimes and he deserved to go down. His   
   flirting with   
   >>>>>>>>    Iran and China just sealed that deal. But I really wish Trump   
   didn't   
   >>>>>>>>    spend his entire press conference basically saying, "Now we've got   
   all   
   >>>>>>>>    that oil and now we're going to make so much money." I mean, even   
   if   
   >>>>>>>>    that's why you did all this, show a little PR sense and focus on   
   stuff   
   >>>>>>>>    like "Now the people of the Venezuela are free and we'll be   
   working on   
   >>>>>>>>    rebuilding the democracy that existed before Maduro and Chavez and   
   making   
   >>>>>>>>    sure those who are starving get fed", etc. etc. 'Cause right now   
   it just   
   >>>>>>>>    looks like you took over a sovereign nation to steal their   
   resources.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>  Even if there is a narcotrafficking case to be made, don't the people   
   of   
   >>>>>>>  Venezuala deserve the opportunity to prosecute this asshole?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Well, if we're going with what the people of Venezuela want, they were   
   >>>>>> dancing in the streets with joy over the news of Maduro's capture and   
   rendition.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Are you sure?  Wasn't the toppling of Saddam's statue staged?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes, I'm sure Trump went down to Doral, Florida and all the other places   
   in   
   >>>> the country where Venezuelan ex-pats have gathered and put on staged   
   >>>> celebrations.     
   >>>   
   >>> I seem to recall, post-conflict, videos of ecstatic Iraqi throngs   
   >>> --videos that I naively accepted at face-value.  I'd like to know why   
   >>> you're so credulous in this instance, with so many similar circumstances   
   >>> in play (not to mention a president demonstrably devoted to lying).   
   >>   
   >>Are you suggesting that all the mainstream media coverage of the celebrations   
   >>lacked legitimate effort at reporting? That we no longer have a functioning   
   >>media in America? Because that would be quite a bold step for you.   
   >   
   >If memory serves, moviepig is referring to photos released by the liberal   
   media   
   >an hour before or after a statue-toppling, claiming it was "proof" that the   
   >event was staged. They did the same thing when trying to claim attendance at   
   Trump's   
   >Inaguaration was very low.   
   >   
   >Some things never change.   
      
   And some still blindly accept whatever the liberal media puts out.   
      
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