From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Jan 4, 2026 at 12:10:50 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
      
   > On 1/4/2026 2:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>  On Jan 3, 2026 at 11:19:50 PM PST, "Ubiquitous"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>  BTR1701  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>  I'm ambivalent about all this. Maduro is a monster who was legitimately   
   >>>>  indicted for actual crimes and he deserved to go down. His flirting with   
   >>>>  Iran and China just sealed that deal. But I really wish Trump didn't   
   >>>>  spend his entire press conference basically saying, "Now we've got all   
   >>>>  that oil and now we're going to make so much money." I mean, even if   
   >>>>  that's why you did all this, show a little PR sense and focus on stuff   
   >>>>  like "Now the people of the Venezuela are free and we'll be working on   
   >>>>  rebuilding the democracy that existed before Maduro and Chavez and making   
   >>>>  sure those who are starving get fed", etc. etc. 'Cause right now it just   
   >>>>  looks like you took over a sovereign nation to steal their resources.   
   >>>   
   >>>  Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't Dems for the last four years or so   
   >>>  wringing their hands about "doing something" about Maduro and didn't Biden   
   >>>  put a $25M bounty on him?   
   >>   
   >>  It is true that a lot of the Democrats who are now screeching about   
   >> "violating   
   >>  international law by kidnapping a head of state" are having to explain a   
   lot   
   >>  of inconvenient tweets and statements that are barely a year old where they   
   >>  literally said things like, "Maduro is an illegitimate and brutal dictator   
   >>  whole stole an election and should be removed". Now that Trump has done   
   >>  exactly what they called for, he's suddenly a war criminal or something.   
   >   
   > Bernie Sanders maintains both assertions.  They're not inconsistent.   
      
   Then who's going to remove Maduro if not someone like Trump? It's not like his   
   own people can just do it themselves.   
      
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