From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Jan 4, 2026 at 9:49:30 PM PST, "shawn"    
   wrote:   
      
   > On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 23:52:27 -0500, Rhino   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2026-01-04 6:47 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>  BTR1701  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>  It is true that a lot of the Democrats who are now screeching about   
   >>>> "violating   
   >>>>  international law by kidnapping a head of state" are having to explain a   
   lot   
   >>>>  of inconvenient tweets and statements that are barely a year old where   
   they   
   >>>>  literally said things like, "Maduro is an illegitimate and brutal   
   dictator   
   >>>>  whole stole an election and should be removed". Now that Trump has done   
   >>>>  exactly what they called for, he's suddenly a war criminal or something.   
   >>>   
   >>>  Fuck Trump for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. No one, except   
   >>>  Cuba, Russia, and China, recognizes Maduro as head of state. Biden   
   >>>  twisted Maduro's arm till he called that election. Maduro then had Hugo   
   >>>  Chavez's leading opponenent Maria Corina Machado barred from running.   
   >>>  The unified opposition ran Edmundo Gonzalez, her ally, instead. Maduro   
   >>>  lost. The entire world said so.   
   >>>   
   >>>  Trump must not say that the U.S. will run the country given that we   
   >>>  aren't even occupying the place. He's got to recognize Gonzales and make   
   >>>  it safe for Machado to come out of hiding. Give them every bit of   
   >>>  support and help restore the economy.   
   >>>   
   >>>  No clue if grabbing Maduro violated international law, considering his   
   >>>  illegitimacy, but if we run the place and Gonzales does not, that's   
   >>>  clearly against international law.   
   >>   
   >> I would imagine American involvement in WWII violated all kinds of   
   >> international law too but sometimes the law has to be ignored to do   
   >> right. I don't remember hearing about the Americans clearing customs on   
   >> the Normandy beaches so they apparently invaded (occupied) France. That   
   >> alone must be a major breach of law.   
   >   
   >   
   > There is one major difference that is described in the words, World   
   > War II. There was a declared war between the two countries.   
      
   There was no declared war between the United States and France in the 1940s.   
      
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