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   On 2026-01-05 15:24:23 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:   
   > On 1/4/2026 10:32 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   >> On 2026-01-05 05:49:30 +0000, shawn said:   
   >>> On Sun, 4 Jan 2026 23:52:27 -0500, Rhino   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>> On 2026-01-04 6:47 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   >>>>> BTR1701  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> It is true that a lot of the Democrats who are now screeching about   
   >>>>>> "violating international law by kidnapping a head of state" are having   
   >>>>>> to explain a lot of inconvenient tweets and statements that are barely   
   >>>>>> a year old where they literally said things like, "Maduro is an   
   >>>>>> illegitimate and brutal dictator whole stole an election and should be   
   >>>>>> removed". Now that Trump has done exactly what they called for, he's   
   >>>>>> suddenly a war criminal or something.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Fuck Trump for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. No one, except   
   >>>>> Cuba, Russia, and China, recognizes Maduro as head of state. Biden   
   >>>>> twisted Maduro's arm till he called that election. Maduro then had Hugo   
   >>>>> Chavez's leading opponenent Maria Corina Machado barred from running.   
   >>>>> The unified opposition ran Edmundo Gonzalez, her ally, instead. Maduro   
   >>>>> lost. The entire world said so.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Trump must not say that the U.S. will run the country given that we   
   >>>>> aren't even occupying the place. He's got to recognize Gonzales and   
   >>>>> make it safe for Machado to come out of hiding. Give them every bit of   
   >>>>> support and help restore the economy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No clue if grabbing Maduro violated international law, considering his   
   >>>>> illegitimacy, but if we run the place and Gonzales does not, that's   
   >>>>> clearly against international law.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I would imagine American involvement in WWII violated all kinds of   
   >>>> international law too but sometimes the law has to be ignored to do   
   >>>> right. I don't remember hearing about the Americans clearing customs on   
   >>>> the Normandy beaches so they apparently invaded (occupied) France. That   
   >>>> alone must be a major breach of law.   
   >>>   
   >>> There is one major difference that is described in the words, World War   
   >>> II. There was a declared war between the two countries. In this case   
   >>> Trump went around Congress and took action without ever declaring war.   
   >>> In fact we've got Marco Rubio declaring that this was just an arrest.   
   >>> An arrest including multiple bombings, military boots on the ground and   
   >>> apparently the deaths of over 80 people including many civilians.   
   >>   
   >> America specifically decided to stay out of World War II (officially   
   >> anyway, some individuals did of course volunteer) ... *until* Japan   
   >> attacked Pearl Harbor, then they quickly changed their mind.   
   >   
   > And even then Congress declared war on Japan.  Which led to Germany   
   > declaring war on the US.  I don't remember ATM if we reciprocated that   
   > or not.   
      
   And then of course America won the war single-handed, with no help from   
   anyone else (they somehow even managed to win battles that they weren't   
   even at) ... at least according to Hollyweird. ;-)   
      
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