From: suzeeq@imbris.com   
      
   On 1/6/2026 12:29 PM, super70s wrote:   
   > On 2026-01-04 21:46:54 +0000, BTR1701 said:   
   >   
   >> On Jan 4, 2026 at 12:10:50 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/4/2026 2:34 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>> On Jan 3, 2026 at 11:19:50 PM PST, "Ubiquitous"    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> BTR1701  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> I'm ambivalent about all this. Maduro is a monster who was   
   >>>>>> legitimately   
   >>>>>> indicted for actual crimes and he deserved to go down. His   
   >>>>>> flirting with   
   >>>>>> Iran and China just sealed that deal. But I really wish Trump didn't   
   >>>>>> spend his entire press conference basically saying, "Now we've got   
   >>>>>> all   
   >>>>>> that oil and now we're going to make so much money." I mean, even if   
   >>>>>> that's why you did all this, show a little PR sense and focus on   
   >>>>>> stuff   
   >>>>>> like "Now the people of the Venezuela are free and we'll be   
   >>>>>> working on   
   >>>>>> rebuilding the democracy that existed before Maduro and Chavez and   
   >>>>>> making   
   >>>>>> sure those who are starving get fed", etc. etc. 'Cause right now   
   >>>>>> it just   
   >>>>>> looks like you took over a sovereign nation to steal their resources.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't Dems for the last four years   
   >>>>> or so   
   >>>>> wringing their hands about "doing something" about Maduro and   
   >>>>> didn't Biden   
   >>>>> put a $25M bounty on him?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is true that a lot of the Democrats who are now screeching about   
   >>>> "violating   
   >>>> international law by kidnapping a head of state" are having to   
   >>>> explain a lot   
   >>>> of inconvenient tweets and statements that are barely a year old   
   >>>> where they   
   >>>> literally said things like, "Maduro is an illegitimate and brutal   
   >>>> dictator   
   >>>> whole stole an election and should be removed". Now that Trump has done   
   >>>> exactly what they called for, he's suddenly a war criminal or   
   >>>> something.   
   >>>   
   >>> Bernie Sanders maintains both assertions.  They're not inconsistent.   
   >>   
   >> Then who's going to remove Maduro if not someone like Trump? It's not   
   >> like his   
   >> own people can just do it themselves.   
   >   
   > Trump is all about stealing and rigging elections, one would think he'd   
   > have a lot of respect for Maduro.   
   >   
   Except... he wants their oil.   
      
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