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   Rhino to Adam H. Kerman   
   Re: Canadian Court: "Indigenous" People    
   07 Jan 26 12:53:11   
   
   From: no_offline_contact@example.com   
      
   On 2026-01-07 12:29 a.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:   
   > BTR1701  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Here's hoping Rhino or Goat don't find themselves out on the street watching   
   >> as an Indian tribe takes over their homes...   
   >   
   >> -------------------------   
   >> The British Columbia Supreme Court decision in Cowichan Tribes v. Canada   
   >> (Attorney General), 2025 BCSC 1490 found that the Cowichan Tribes proved   
   >> aboriginal title under the test from Delgamuukw v. British Columbia (1997)   
   and   
   >> Tsilhqot'in Nation v. British Columbia (2014):   
   >   
   > Cool. For our next trick, Great Britain goes back to the Britons and   
   > France to the Gauls.   
   >   
   Ah, but which Britons? The Saxons? The Celts? The Neanderthals? The   
   problem with undoing history is deciding how far to go back.   
      
      
   > Land title was a fiction from English law. There was no native title to   
   > extinguish because they had no land tenure system.   
   >   
   >> (1) Sufficient Occupation   
   >   
   >> (2) Continuity   
   >   
   >> (3) Exclusivity   
   >   
   > How many centuries of taxes did they forget to pay? That's the duty of   
   > the land owner. Fork it over.   
   >   
   >> Effect on Private Property:   
   >   
   >> This was the first Canadian court decision to declare aboriginal title over   
   >> lands including fee simple (private) ownership. The court ruled that Crown   
   >> grants and vestings were issued without statutory or constitutional   
   authority   
   >> (violating Article 13 of BC's Terms of Union and reserve policies),   
   >> constituting unjustifiable infringements on aboriginal title under the   
   Sparrow   
   >> and Tsilhqot'in frameworks.   
   >   
   >> These grants did not extinguish title, as provinces lack jurisdiction to do   
   >> so; instead, aboriginal title coexists as a prior, senior right that burdens   
   >> fee simple interests.   
   >   
   >> [In other words, good luck ever selling your house.]   
   >   
   > I've never heard of a senior right burden on fee simple. The banks will   
   > have to foreclose on the Indians.   
   >   
   >> For developed and private lands (about 125 privately held properties in the   
   >> claim area): Fee simple titles held by third parties (private owners) remain   
   >> valid and indefeasible under the Land Title Act until reconciled through   
   >> negotiation or further litigation.   
   >   
   > Ah. There is no justice, just endless work for lawyers.   
   >   
   > Can the Indians now be sued for land and water pollution and other   
   > nuisances?   
   >   
   >> Owners can continue using their property but aboriginal title constrains   
   >> incompatible uses (e.g., no new developments without consent or   
   >> justification).\   
   >   
   >> [Gee, thanks, judge for your permission to continue to live in my own   
   house.]   
   >   
   >> Legal defenses such as limitations periods, laches, and bona fide purchaser   
   >> status were rejected by the court, despite being both relevant and   
   legitimate   
   >> defenses, in order to "prioritize reconciliation".   
   >   
   > It's moviePig law!   
   >   
   >> [In other words, appeasing the Indians is what's important here so if we   
   have   
   >> to ignore the law to keep you white people from prevailing here, that's what   
   >> we're going to do.]   
   >   
   >> Effect on Public Property:   
   >   
   >> Titles held by Canada (mostly industrial) and the City of Richmond (mostly   
   >> undeveloped) were declared defective and invalid, with the ruling suspended   
   >> for 18 months to allow transfer back to the Cowichan Tribes (except a   
   12-acre   
   >> airport fuel depot). All lands belonging to the Vancouver Fraser Port   
   >> Authority were ceded back to the tribe.   
   >   
   > Wow. The artificial land too that the Indians had the technology to   
   > build?   
   >   
   >> The ruling creates uncertainty for private landowners in Richmond, who may   
   >> face clouded titles but not immediate eviction from their homes or loss of   
   >> deeds.   
   >   
   >> Affected homeowners were not formally notified during the trial (a 2017   
   ruling   
   >> by the judge deemed it necessary to avoid hostility), leading to surprise   
   when   
   >> the verdict was handed down and a proposed class-action lawsuit alleging   
   >> malfeasance by the government.   
      
      
   --   
   Rhino   
      
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