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|    Rhino to All    |
|    Re: Canadian Court: "Indigenous" People     |
|    07 Jan 26 12:50:17    |
      From: no_offline_contact@example.com              On 2026-01-06 11:01 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:       > Here's hoping Rhino or Goat don't find themselves out on the street watching       > as an Indian tribe takes over their homes...              Goat has a much bigger problem then I do. The tribes there have so many       claims in BC that literally well over 100% of BC is contested! Yes, I       said "literally" and I meant it. The tribes have OVERLAPPING land claims       so the amount of claimed land exceeds 100%.              It is my understanding (i.e. not verified with a lawyer) that my area       WAS legally purchased from the local tribes so I should be fine.       >       > -------------------------       > The British Columbia Supreme Court decision in Cowichan Tribes v. Canada       > (Attorney General), 2025 BCSC 1490 found that the Cowichan Tribes proved       > aboriginal title under the test from Delgamuukw v. British Columbia (1997)       and       > Tsilhqot'in Nation v. British Columbia (2014):       >       > (1) Sufficient Occupation       >       > (2) Continuity       >       > (3) Exclusivity       >       > Effect on Private Property:       >       > This was the first Canadian court decision to declare aboriginal title over       > lands including fee simple (private) ownership. The court ruled that Crown       > grants and vestings were issued without statutory or constitutional authority       > (violating Article 13 of BC's Terms of Union and reserve policies),       > constituting unjustifiable infringements on aboriginal title under the       Sparrow       > and Tsilhqot'in frameworks.       >       > These grants did not extinguish title, as provinces lack jurisdiction to do       > so; instead, aboriginal title coexists as a prior, senior right that burdens       > fee simple interests.       >       > [In other words, good luck ever selling your house.]       >       > For developed and private lands (about 125 privately held properties in the       > claim area): Fee simple titles held by third parties (private owners) remain       > valid and indefeasible under the Land Title Act until reconciled through       > negotiation or further litigation.       >       > Owners can continue using their property but aboriginal title constrains       > incompatible uses (e.g., no new developments without consent or       > justification).\       >       > [Gee, thanks, judge for your permission to continue to live in my own house.]       >       > Legal defenses such as limitations periods, laches, and bona fide purchaser       > status were rejected by the court, despite being both relevant and legitimate       > defenses, in order to "prioritize reconciliation".       >       > [In other words, appeasing the Indians is what's important here so if we have       > to ignore the law to keep you white people from prevailing here, that's what       > we're going to do.]       >       > Effect on Public Property:       >       > Titles held by Canada (mostly industrial) and the City of Richmond (mostly       > undeveloped) were declared defective and invalid, with the ruling suspended       > for 18 months to allow transfer back to the Cowichan Tribes (except a 12-acre       > airport fuel depot). All lands belonging to the Vancouver Fraser Port       > Authority were ceded back to the tribe.       >       > The ruling creates uncertainty for private landowners in Richmond, who may       > face clouded titles but not immediate eviction from their homes or loss of       > deeds.       >       > Affected homeowners were not formally notified during the trial (a 2017       ruling       > by the judge deemed it necessary to avoid hostility), leading to surprise       when       > the verdict was handed down and a proposed class-action lawsuit alleging       > malfeasance by the government.       >       >              This is what comes of living in a province with "progressive" leaders       and activist judges who legislate from the bench. BC is presently a very       blue state in American terms but the premier only hung on by a thread at       the last election so I'm hopeful he will be gone next time around. Goat       will have a far better idea than me on whether that's realistic but BC       has long swung like a pendulum between the socialists and the small 'c'       conservatives. I think they're due to swing back very soon now. Whether       a change in leadership can reverse this decision is a much different       question though.                     --       Rhino              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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