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On 2026-01-08 11:53 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Rhino wrote:
>> On 2026-01-08 10:35 p.m., Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Rhino wrote:
>
>>>> Protests in Iran have gone into a 12th day with Reza Pahlavi, the Crown
>>>> Prince (son of the last Shah of Iran) is calling for his supporters -
>>>> which appears to be nearly everyone - to go to the streets to take back
>>>> their country. . . .
>
>>> Oh. Will restoration lead to liberty? I suspect not.
>
>> The Crown Prince has promised that he will let them have a monarchy or
>> republic and be involved as much or as little as they want him. His name
>> and instructions to the protesters seem to have a LOT of impact with
>> them. The two primary themes of the protesters chants are "Death to
>> Khamenei" (or overthrowing the Islamist regime) and "Bring back the
>> King" (meaning the Crown Prince). They see the pre-1979 period in a very
>> positive way and want to go back to that.
>
> He has the advantage of not having done anything evil in the last 4 and
> a 1/2 decades.
>
>> Is support for the Shah universal? Probably not but apparently it is
>> very strong right now and they're seeing him as a symbol of the
>> direction they want to go in.
>
>> Some pundits have said that the fall of the Islamists will lead to the
>> balkanization of Iran with each of the many ethnic groups splitting off
>> into separate countries but the host of Tousi TV, an Iranian expat
>> living in the UK who has strong contacts in Iran (via Skylink), says the
>> various groups are pulling together against the regime, not jockeying
>> for position to have their own separate areas. He knows a lot more about
>> this than I do so I have to defer to his assessment until I know better.
>
>> Whatever follows this regime probably won't be perfect; that's the
>> nature of government. How free will people be? I just don't know. It's
>> hard to imagine things being worse but maybe my imagination just isn't
>> trying hard enough.
>
> They can't overthrow the Islamic regime soon enough. But I don't see the
> Revolutionary Guard going quietly.
>
Agreed! They've already been sent against the protesters but there are
reports that they're being supplemented - or even replaced by -
foreigners like Iraqi Shiites who are deemed less likely to go over to
the side of the protesters.
There's already been bloodshed and there looks like there will be more
but, so far, the unrest is very widespread and the protesters don't seem
to be backing down. They seem to have finally hit a point where they
know they have to keep going to get rid of the Islamists. They've been
very clear that they are enormously grateful to Trump for publicly
supporting them and their desire to rid themselves of the current
regime. (They are also aware that most of the media and the Europeans
are utterly ignoring what's going on or trying to downplay it, which
makes Trump's support that much more meaningful.)
I'm eagerly awaiting signs that the regime has utterly collapsed and
Khamenei and his inner circle have fled to Russia or, failing that, that
Trump is making good on his promise to help topple the regime.
>>> Can they put Mosaddegh back into the government?
>
>> Unless they have the power of resurrection, I don't see how. He died in
>> 1967.
>
> Just thinking how long it's been since they had a government that was
> popularly elected.
It's certainly been a while; that is very clear. The Crown Prince has
apparently lived in the US for most of the past 45 years. I have to
imagine he's seen the benefits of democracy in all that time and does
everything within his power to help them get a form of government they
can live with.
--
Rhino
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