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   BTR1701 to moviePig   
   Re: England Too Radically Islamic for th   
   11 Jan 26 02:14:33   
   
   From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Jan 10, 2026 at 1:36:10 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
      
   > On 1/10/2026 2:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>  On Jan 10, 2026 at 8:09:24 AM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>  On 1/9/2026 11:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>    On Jan 9, 2026 at 7:38:39 PM PST, "moviePig"    
   wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>    On 1/9/2026 7:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>>>      On Jan 9, 2026 at 2:21:03 PM PST, "moviePig"    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>      On 1/9/2026 3:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>        On Jan 9, 2026 at 12:29:50 PM PST, "moviePig"    
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>        On 1/9/2026 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>          The United Arab Emirates announced that they will cut   
   government   
   >>>>>>>>>>      funding for   
   >>>>>>>>>>          citizens who wish to study in the United Kingdom out of   
   fear that   
   >>>>>>>>>>    Emirati   
   >>>>>>>>>>          students may be radicalized by Muslim Brotherhood members   
   on British   
   >>>>>>>>>>          campuses.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>          An Arab state now considers Britain such a dangerous   
   hotbed of   
   >>>>>>>>>>  Islamist   
   >>>>>>>>>>          radicalization that it affects their national security.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>        Specifically, the UAE seems to be targeting the Muslim   
   >>>>>>>>> Brotherhood, who   
   >>>>>>>>>        seeks the ascendancy of a pure Islamist state ...including in   
   the UAE.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>        Which the UK government is literally doing nothing about. Hell,   
   >>>>>>>> they're   
   >>>>>>>>        intentionally and actively making the problem worse with their   
   mass   
   >>>>>>>>      3rd-world   
   >>>>>>>>        immigration policies.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>      Unless the Brotherhood advocates illegality, I don't see how the   
   UK can   
   >>>>>>>      censure without appearing to censor.  (I suspect the UAE doesn't   
   care.)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      The same way they're prosecuting all the white native Brits for   
   >>>>>> tweets and   
   >>>>>>      comments, claiming they "foment racial hatred" or "cause offense".   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK   
   government   
   >>>>>>  and   
   >>>>>>      the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left alone. Not   
   even a   
   >>>>>>  visit   
   >>>>>>      from the police, let alone a prosecution or deportation.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      But if you're a native Brit and you say, "Fuck Hamas!" on Facebook,   
   >>>>>> you're   
   >>>>>>      thrown in prison. Hell, some native Brits have been arrested   
   merely for   
   >>>>>>    saying   
   >>>>>>      they like bacon. But the Muslims? If you report them for far more   
   >>>>>> serious   
   >>>>>>      things like threatening your life, let alone offending you, the   
   police   
   >>>>>>  drop   
   >>>>>>    it   
   >>>>>>      the moment they realize the suspect is brown, migrant, or Muslim.   
   >>>>>> They'll   
   >>>>>>      literally tell you, "Sorry, those people are protected."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    So as not to compare apples to oranges, it'd be helpful to see (which   
   I   
   >>>>>    haven't) a wriggle-free instance equivalent to "Fuck Judaism" being   
   >>>>>    punished while "Fuck Islam" isn't.  Both seem unequivocally hate   
   speech.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Except the case in question wasn't "Fuck Islam", it was "Fuck Hamas". A   
   >>>>  group   
   >>>>    which the UK government itself designates a terrorist organization. So   
   >>>> here   
   >>>>  we   
   >>>>    have the UK locking up one of its own citizens for insulting a bunch of   
   >>>>    terrorists. It's literally illegal to hurt the feelings of terrorists   
   >>>> in the   
   >>>>    UK.   
   >>>   
   >>>  You write:   
   >>>   
   >>>       "There are imams directly calling for the overthrow of the UK   
   >>>  government and the killing of Jews and Christians and they're left   
   >>>  alone. Not even a visit from the police, let alone a prosecution or   
   >>>  deportation."   
   >>>   
   >>>  That does sound clearly illegal.  Do you have a reputable cite?   
   >>   
   >>  Read up on the case of Alaa Abd el-Fattah.   
   >   
   >  From Wiki:   
   >   
   >     Abd El-Fattah wrote "Looking at the tweets now – the ones that were   
   > not completely twisted out of their meaning – I do understand how   
   > shocking and hurtful they are, and for that I unequivocally apologise".   
      
   Did Lucy Connelly get the chance to apologize for her tweets and just move on   
   with her life? Nope. She got dumped in the clink for two years.   
      
   But ol' Abd, he gets to just say, "Whoops! Sorry!" and the UK government looks   
   the other way.   
      
   And if you believe that apology is sincere and he no longer feels that way, I   
   have some bridges you might be interested in purchasing.   
      
   > He said that tweets allegedly showing homophobia and Holocaust denial   
   > were satires of such attitudes, and that he had fought for Egypt's LGBT   
   > and religious minority communities. The Government considered his   
   > apology "fairly fulsome".   
   >   
   > Obviously, his public contrition is unconvincing.  But it's enough to   
   > muddy the waters for a government ostensibly prioritizing freedoms.   
      
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