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   From: nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com   
      
   On Sun, 25 Jan 2026 22:19:14 -0700, anim8rfsk    
   wrote:   
      
   >BTR1701  wrote:   
   >> On Jan 21, 2026 at 8:57:29 PM PST, "anim8rfsk"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> shawn  wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 18:59:45 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> He doesn't like Holly Hunter's slouching bridge behavior, either. And   
   that's   
   >>>>> just for starters.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://youtu.be/kormqz5NJQ4?t=52   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Is anyone supporting the show? I've seen multiple commentaries on the   
   >>>> show with no one coming out in favor of what they've seen.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I posted a non-inflammatory article about the show that mentioned Larry   
   >>> Niven in my Larry Niven group and the defenders came out swinging   
   >>>   
   >>> “Oh god I am so sick of listening to white men whine. Seriously, DVD's of   
   >>> Walker Texas Ranger exist... probably. Go watch all the intellectually   
   >>> vapid 'unwoke' crap you want to. Stop telling story tellers how to tell   
   >>> stories.   
   >>   
   >> More like, "Stop telling middle-aged woke white women how to tell stories!"   
   >>   
   >> Here's an actual quote from the showrunner and executive producer Alex   
   >> Kurtzman about what they see as 'proper' Trek these days:   
   >>   
   >> "We write with Black Lives Matter, the NAACP, etc., in mind. The goal is not   
   >> really to promote STAR TREK, but to promote these organizations and to use   
   our   
   >> platform to bring greater awareness to these very, very important messages,   
   >> people and places."   
   >   
   >This sounds a lot like when one of the writers for the CW SUPERGIRL said in   
   >an interview that it’s not important they write good scripts. It’s   
   >important they put in woke messages.   
   >   
      
   I get how a writer can start to think like that. It's like the writers   
   behind MS MARVEL focused on getting their message out. What I don't   
   get is how the people running the studios don't see how not focusing   
   on the writing is going to hurt the audience retention.   
      
    In a small indie project you can do what ever you want and spend all   
   your efforts on some message, but in any sort of mass media project   
   that is clearly the wrong approach to keep a large segment of the   
   potential viewers watching. Yet there seem to be a significant number   
   of the money people at the studios who seem to ignore the way focusing   
   on a message turns off viewers.   
      
   >>   
   >> So STAR TREK is just the macguffin they use to preach social justice. It's   
   the   
   >> social justice that matters and all of you assholes who complain about   
   things   
   >> like continuity and plot and believability should just shut the fuck up and   
   >> bask in the 'progressive' messaging with the rest of us.   
   >>   
   >>> Better yet, make your own SF series and compete with Trek in its   
   >>> own milieu. Stop giving advice and actually do something yourselves,   
   >>> because I'm one of you and Christ I'm sick of listening to your unmanly   
   >>> mewing."   
   >>   
   >> How is it 'unmanly' to notice how they get everything about Trek wrong?   
   Female   
   >> Jem'Hadars? Or for that matter, Jem'Hadars that are genetically engineered   
   to   
   >> be soldiers and killers, yet somehow have decided to lead a life of   
   >> bureaucracy and paperwork instead? Betazoids whose abilities directly   
   >> contradict everything we've known about them up to this point? A hologram   
   >> student whose entire character is one big logical contradiction but we're   
   >> supposed to just go with it because think of all the social justice stories   
   it   
   >> will lead to?   
   >>   
   >> Noticing all that stuff makes you 'unmanly' somehow?   
   >>   
   >>> "I'm old, I'm white, and I'm male. Somehow, miracle of miracles, I can make   
   >>> it through an entire day without being offended by new things and new ways   
   >>> of thinking.   
   >>   
   >> All evidence to the contrary. You seem big mad about anyone who criticizes   
   >> Left Trek or has a different political viewpoint than yourself.   
   >>   
   >>> "Seriously, whenever I see some mayo-face neck beard complaining   
   >>   
   >> Ah, so apparently bigoted racial slurs aren't part of your 'progressive'   
   >> ideology. Or is it only okay when they're directed toward white people?   
   >>   
   >>> about how something is "woke" I know that somewhere out there a stupid   
   little   
   >>> misogynist fragile man baby racist angel is getting his wings."   
   >>>   
   >>> "The show was designed for us boomers. And it's aggressively progressive.   
   >>> The chads can just deal with it, or run off and burn off their cortisol on   
   >>> the weight bench, dreaming of getting to touch a live girl who is not under   
   >>> sedation."   
   >>   
   >> Or they can continue to point out the drek that is currently masquerading as   
   >> STAR TREK and watch the ratings crater as no one who isn't a college   
   professor   
   >> with a hammer-and-sickle flag on his wall will bother to sit through it, and   
   >> you can continue to whine about them on Facebook. Disney (finally) learned   
   >> this lesson with STAR WARS and Paramount will learn it with STAR TREK and   
   >> eventually stop catering to proto-communists like you and get back to what   
   >> made it a 50-year fan favorite franchise.   
   >>   
   >> And yes, anim, you have my permission to copy this response to the asshole   
   on   
   >> Facebook. I'm sure it will get you banned, though, because heaven forfend   
   >> grown adults should be allowed to speak their minds.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
      
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