From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   BTR1701  wrote:   
   >On Jan 28, 2026 at 2:26:46 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   >>BTR1701  wrote:   
      
   >>>Two people are dead and a third has been injured over the last three   
   >>>weeks in Minneapolis alone because leftists cannot accept the idea   
   >>>that the other side gets a say in how this country is governed, even   
   >>>when they lose an election.   
      
   >>I'm calling bullshit. The immigration enforcement has been anything but   
   >>useful. Federal agents don't get to tear gas protestors   
      
   >But they do get to tear gas violent insurrectionists. If all these people   
   >did was stand on the sidewalk holding signs, beating their bongos, and   
   >chanting, no one would be tear gassed. But they're not doing that. They're   
   >assaulting the agents, throwing bricks and other dangerous objects at   
   >them, squirting them with water guns filled with urine, blocking their   
   >vehicles, trying to pull illegal alien arrestees out of their custody,   
   >and trying to run them down with cars.   
      
   >None. Of. That. Is. Protesting.   
      
   I'm not disagreeing with your examples. On the other hand, ICE has no   
   business creating these ridiculous situations for a show of force. What   
   does any of that have to do with capturing illegal aliens?   
      
   ICE has no business doing crowd control. They aren't trained in these   
   techniques. No real cop would behave like this, go to tear gas and stun   
   grenades first. But then, no real cops are used to create scenarios for   
   attracting protestors.   
      
   Local cops, trying to keep the protestors at bay, have enjoyed the same   
   attention from tear gas.   
      
   ICE is violating constitutional right after constitutional right. They   
   interdict anyone based on appearance and accent, and this includes   
   American citizens. Americans are not required to carry citizenship   
   papers with them; driver's license isn't a citizenship document, This   
   isn't fucking USSR or China.   
      
   I'll point out the obvious, that when Tom Homan shut down the southern   
   border to illegal crossings, there were no widespread big city protests.   
   The protests are in response to absurd, heavy handed show of force   
   tactics being used in cities. Americans don't want their rights violated   
   and they don't want federal agents uselessly parading around cities.   
      
   >None. Of. It. Is. Protected. By. The. 1st Amendment.   
      
   >And using tear gas on crowds of committing criminal acts like that is   
   >precisely what tear gas is for.   
      
   Tear gas has been used on individuals and very small groups, not just   
   crowds, and people in the crowds are generally not committing crimes.   
      
   >I posted this earlier in the week but it bears repeating:   
      
   I read it. I haven't posted a followup yet.   
      
   >>The three victims were shot because federal agents got trigger happy.   
      
   >No. One person was shot because she was clearly trying to run down a cop.   
      
   I don't agree, and the idea that a dead driver will bring the vehicle to   
   a complete stop means that the cop who shot Good dead was a moron. He   
   was able to step out of the vehicle's path which indicates he was never   
   in danger. And since when would a properly trained cop attempt to   
   intercept a vehicle with his own body?   
      
   >Another was shot because he was an illegal alien under lawful arrest and   
   >escaped, and when reprehended he (and his family members) surrounded the cop   
   >and started beating him with deadly weapons.   
      
   >The third shooting is the most iffy and if those cops are found to have acted   
   >wrongly, they should go to prison for it. But bringing a loaded gun to a   
   >protest where you intend ahead of time to get into physical confrontations   
   >with police (Pretti was assaulting ICE agents just the week before his death   
   >and kicking the taillights out of government vehicles so fighting with cops   
   >was clearly on his to-do list) is a monumentally stupid thing to do.   
      
   >>Period. Let's not blame indirect causes.   
      
   >>Gee. Tom Homan just suspended the two who shot and killed Alex Pretti.   
   >>Perhaps the killing was unjustified, if not criminal.   
      
   >Every LEO is "suspended" after a shooting while the investigation takes place.   
   >You don't shoot someone and then two hours later be back out on the street   
   >chasing bad guys. This isn't an episode of BLUE BLOODS.   
      
   The one who shot Good wasn't suspended, nor were the ones in the other   
   shooting, were they.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)