From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Feb 15, 2026 at 8:49:47 AM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
      
   > On 2/14/2026 6:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>  On Feb 14, 2026 at 3:15:40 PM PST, "moviePig"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>  On 2/14/2026 5:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>    On Feb 14, 2026 at 2:11:23 PM PST, "moviePig"    
   wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>    On 2/14/2026 2:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      Reason number 491 that I drive an old 1998 4Runner with none of   
   this   
   >>>>>>    Orwellian   
   >>>>>>      garbage in it, and will drive it until its wheels fall off rather   
   >>>>>> than buy   
   >>>>>>    one   
   >>>>>>      of these new surveillance systems on wheels. Even Orwell didn't   
   envision   
   >>>>>>      people voluntarily purchasing the spy tech to be used against them.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    Yes. For better or worse, we humans tend to choose autonomy over   
   safety.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    You apparently weren't paying attention to the thread. There's nothing   
   >>>> safe   
   >>>>    about this crap.   
   >>>   
   >>>  In accord with the principle I stated, we tend to focus   
   >>>  disproportionately on horrifying malfunction scenarios.   
   >>   
   >>  Because they're... wait for it... horrifying.   
   >   
   > Yes.  And our disproportionate reaction to them   
      
   There's nothing "disproportionate" about objecting to my car shutting down   
   when I want or need to drive it because-- through relentless spying on me and   
   invading my privacy-- it has determined I "shouldn't" drive until I book a   
   therapy appointment (and presumably take an Uber to get to it since my car has   
   bricked itself).   
      
   > can lead to objectively inferior choices.   
      
   It's not an inferior choice to hand the keys to our own autonomy and agency to   
   Skynet.   
      
   >   E.g., the image of someone fatally trapped in his own   
   > car can easily outweigh an overall lowering of mortality.  It's a   
   > principle well-understood by all politicians ...back to Stalin, iirc.   
      
   Well, when you use Stalin to bolster your position, how can I possible argue   
   with that?   
      
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