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   RichA to All   
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   From: rander3127@gmail.com   
      
   Radical rightwing fascist Red "shithole" states contribute less than 30% to   
   the USA's total GDP output.   
      
   What about Trump's poor polling and his involvement in the Epstein   
   pedophile trafficking operation?   
      
      
   The Republican party obviously has a long and sordid history of the most   
   disgusting sex scandals, including those of the child abuse and rape   
   variety. And that certainly forms a tight Venn diagram with the rot inside   
   the conservative Christian church, protestant and Catholic, rich, poor and   
   everything in between.   
      
   It’s as if there’s something about these ideologies that lends itself to   
   abusing minors, and that attracts and shelters those who’d like to do   
   that.   
      
   Since January I’ve been tracking all the current news stories I can find   
   of Christian pastors, priests, youth leaders, teachers, gymnastics   
   coaches, and more — anyone in a spiritual position of power — who’s   
   accused of, sued or arrested for, tried for, and/or convicted of sex   
   crimes against minors. Because there are so fucking many of them.   
      
   (Meanwhile, similar stories about drag queens, trans people or LGBTQ+   
   people in general just don’t show up in the news very often! But yet we’re   
   supposed to attack LGBTQ+ people as groomers and predators while we drop   
   our kids off at church, where the bad guys are. Well, guess what? Fuck   
   you.)   
      
   I’m not the only one who’s ever tracked this stuff. I compile my list by   
   using other people’s lists and tips y’all leave me on social media, and   
   also just my own searching. But I’m particularly interested to see exactly   
   which churches, and which denominations, are   
   producing/aiding/hiding/harboring the most child sex predators, alleged   
   and confirmed.   
      
   Because quite frankly, when these Christian conservative MAGA fascist Nazi   
   motherfuckers try to impose their will on the rest of us, try to control   
   our lives, I think one of our first questions should be “Oh yeah? And   
   which white fascist Christian tradition are you from?”   
      
   And when they tell us, one of the FIRST things that comes to mind should   
   be our knowledge of what a haven for kidfuckers that place may or may not   
   be.   
      
   Now that we’re six months in tracking this, and we can start putting   
   together some preliminary data, the word that comes up the most?   
      
   Baptist.   
      
   Both the Southern Baptist variety and the independent fundamentalist   
   Baptist variety, as well as a couple other varieties. Is there something   
   about those churches that makes them inherently unsafe for kids? And   
   should children be allowed in those churches without parental supervision?   
      
   Just asking!   
      
   Fucking Baptists. Become a paying subscriber because you’re not surprised!   
      
   I have a full update on my tracking list below, but you should know that   
   the grand total of distinct stories I’ve tracked in the first six months   
   of this year is ONE-HUNDRED FUCKING TWENTY-FIVE. Almost all are from the   
   United States. A ridiculous percentage come from the South.   
      
   For fairness, I’m also tracking how often it happens at more liberal and   
   mainline Christian churches. SPOILER: Not very.   
      
   And right now, anything with “Baptist” next to its name is far and away   
   leading the pack, accounting for fully 39 out of the 125 stories.   
      
   Out of those, 21 are Southern Baptist congregations and/or schools. That   
   shouldn’t be a shock, since the SBC is kind of the Home Of The Christian   
   Sex Abuse Scandal Cover-Up, at least among protestants.   
      
   But hey, y’all, the SBC just overwhelmingly voted to criminalize porn!   
      
   And to call for the overturning of Obergefell v. Hodges, which legalized   
   marriage equality!   
      
   At least they’re paying attention to the important stuff, like God Hates   
   Fags, right?   
      
   Scumbag motherfuckers, literally every one of them is going to hell.   
      
   Ten more are from independent fundamentalist Baptist/King James churches,   
   the extreme backwoods kinds that think only the King James version of the   
   Bible is the real one, I guess because they think Jesus was a white man   
   who spoke the King’s English. (It’s funny that they love that translation   
   so much, considering how little formal education so many IFB/King James   
   church leaders have.)   
      
   The other eight are Baptist churches that were harder to easily   
   categorize. A few are historically Black congregations. One or two are   
   just much more obscure sects under the “Baptist” umbrella.   
      
   Here are some more numbers on which churches, denominations and movements   
   are represented in the big conservative Christian kid-toucher report, and   
   how much so far:   
      
       Assemblies of God/Holiness/Apostolic/generally otherwise pentecostal   
       or charismatic (some of these might better belong in the regular   
       nondenominational/megachurch category below or vice versa, I’m doing   
       my best to categorize them) — 16   
      
       General nondenominational evangelical/Christian nationalist (this is a   
       big tent, but there’s a lot of “undefined” out there in the world of   
       evangelicalism, also see just above) — 15   
      
       Catholic — 8   
      
       Conservative Presbyterian (PCA, EPC, etc.) or anything calling itself   
       “Reformed” — 4   
      
       Seventh Day Adventist — 4   
      
       Lutheran (regular/Missouri Synod) — 3   
      
       Methodist (the conservative, backwards types, NOT the nice United   
       Methodists) — 2   
      
       Vineyard USA — 2   
      
       Nazarene — 2   
      
       Wesleyan — 1   
      
       Anglican (NOT Episcopalian, these tend to be the ones that left the   
       Episcopalians in a huff for being insufficiently gay-hating) — 1   
      
       Evangelical Lutheran (these are the liberal Lutherans, despite what   
       the name might sound like) — 1   
      
       Mormon (LDS) — 1   
      
       Church of Christ — 1   
      
       Disciples of Christ — 1   
      
       Episcopalian — 1   
      
       United Methodist — 1   
      
   Now obviously, I can’t call this scientific, because for one thing there’s   
   no way of knowing if I missed a bunch of stories, since stories of child   
   sex abuse in the conservative Christian church really are so constant. (I   
   literally gather new sources every month.) Plus, as I alluded to several   
   times, the categorization isn’t always going to be perfect, considering   
   the uneven lines between some of these   
   evangelical/charistmatic/nondenominational movements, and their overlap   
   with the more pentecostal side of things, etc.   
      
   But I’m trying my best to categorize them fairly!   
      
   Also it’s entirely possible I miscounted something. (Whoever wants to   
   volunteer to turn this into a spreadsheet, well, you’ll be doing God’s   
   actual work.)   
      
   But we can look at these patterns.   
      
   And when we see somebody like that sneering, satanic-eyed little prig   
   Speaker Mike Johnson claiming moral superiority and authority over how the   
   rest of us should be allowed to live our lives, we can go yeeeeeeeeah go   
      
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