From: ahk@chinet.com   
      
   BTR1701  wrote:   
   >Feb 22, 2026 at 2:17:27 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   >>BTR1701  wrote:   
      
   >>>. . .   
      
   >>>And to participate in this volunteer snow shoveling program, you have   
   >>>to show two forms of ID, a Social Security card, and two pictures of   
   >>>yourself. You need all that to shovel snow in NYC, but to walk in and   
   >>>vote? Nope, you don't need any of that. . . .   
      
   >>. . .   
      
   >>You need specific ID to register to vote and to be found on specific   
   >>government databases. The rest of the United States doesn't engage in   
   >>California's potential ballot fraud problem which still cannot be solved   
   >>with voter ID.   
      
   >Sure it can. Under a voter ID requirement, you'd be required to provide   
   >your driver license number on your mail-in ballot, which will then be   
   >cross-checked before the ballot is counted.   
      
   "provide your driver license number on your mail-in ballot"   
      
   No. Ballots MUST NOT have distinguing marks to mitigate against vote buying   
   and for privacy.   
      
   In my state, we put the DL number or the SSN's four most significant   
   digits on the application for a mail-in ballot. This is then matched   
   against the voter registration database that had been matched against the   
   state database of these name/number combinations required under federal   
   law, Motor Voter. The voted ballot must be returned in an envelope   
   that effectively serves as a second application and affidavit which is   
   required under specific circumstances. The ballot remains unvoted till   
   after polls close to make sure the voter didn't vote in person. Only then   
   is the envelope opened and the vote cast.   
      
   This is far more secure than other states that cast mail-in ballots   
   before polls close to appease the news media that gets hysterical when   
   all close elections cannot be called shortly after polls close.   
      
   >A ballot harvester who's filling out blank ballots will be highly unlikely   
   >to also have a list of dozens or hundreds of people whose names to fill   
   >them out under *and* their DL numbers to go with it.   
      
   There's 100% chance of success in preventing fraud of this nature by   
   amending your election code to end distribution of ballots blanks unless   
   applied for. You're the one who convinced me how bad this law was when   
   you first brought it to my attention.   
      
   Why are you arguing that this law invitiing fraud can be salvaged? The   
   only solution here is repeal.   
      
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