From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   On Feb 22, 2026 at 2:58:28 PM PST, ""Adam H. Kerman""  wrote:   
      
   > BTR1701  wrote:   
   >> Feb 22, 2026 at 2:17:27 PM PST, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:   
   >>> BTR1701  wrote:   
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   >>>> . . .   
   >   
   >>>> And to participate in this volunteer snow shoveling program, you have   
   >>>> to show two forms of ID, a Social Security card, and two pictures of   
   >>>> yourself. You need all that to shovel snow in NYC, but to walk in and   
   >>>> vote? Nope, you don't need any of that. . . .   
   >   
   >>> . . .   
   >   
   >>> You need specific ID to register to vote and to be found on specific   
   >>> government databases. The rest of the United States doesn't engage in   
   >>> California's potential ballot fraud problem which still cannot be solved   
   >>> with voter ID.   
   >   
   >> Sure it can. Under a voter ID requirement, you'd be required to provide   
   >> your driver license number on your mail-in ballot, which will then be   
   >> cross-checked before the ballot is counted.   
   >   
   > "provide your driver license number on your mail-in ballot"   
   >   
   > No. Ballots MUST NOT have distinguing marks to mitigate against vote buying   
   > and for privacy.   
   >   
   > In my state, we put the DL number or the SSN's four most significant   
   > digits on the application for a mail-in ballot. This is then matched   
   > against the voter registration database that had been matched against the   
   > state database of these name/number combinations required under federal   
   > law, Motor Voter. The voted ballot must be returned in an envelope   
   > that effectively serves as a second application and affidavit which is   
   > required under specific circumstances. The ballot remains unvoted till   
   > after polls close to make sure the voter didn't vote in person. Only then   
   > is the envelope opened and the vote cast.   
   >   
   > This is far more secure than other states that cast mail-in ballots   
   > before polls close to appease the news media that gets hysterical when   
   > all close elections cannot be called shortly after polls close.   
   >   
   >> A ballot harvester who's filling out blank ballots will be highly unlikely   
   >> to also have a list of dozens or hundreds of people whose names to fill   
   >> them out under *and* their DL numbers to go with it.   
   >   
   > There's 100% chance of success in preventing fraud of this nature by   
   > amending your election code to end distribution of ballots blanks unless   
   > applied for. You're the one who convinced me how bad this law was when   
   > you first brought it to my attention.   
   >   
   > Why are you arguing that this law invitiing fraud can be salvaged?   
      
   I'm not. I'm just accepting it as a status quo that's unlikely to change since   
   it cements the Democrat super-majority here.   
      
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