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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   "Robert Bannister" wrote in message   
   news:b6qu74F48beU5@mid.individual.net...   
   > On 11/08/13 11:13 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 22:33:50 -0600, Greg Goss wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> In the very early days, you could get the ATM card combined with your   
   >>> credit card. Thus you would use the credit card in ATMs and choose   
   >>> which of three accounts you're interacting with.   
   >>>   
   >>> With the rise of using your ATM card as a debit card for purchases,   
   >>> this feature was lost. Unlike at an ATM, the electronic pathway for   
   >>> using a credit card is quite different from that a debit card uses.   
   >>   
   >> You can still get those in Canada but they're devastating for the   
   >> merchant since debit transactions cost 12-15 cents each while if a   
   >> credit card depending on the type of card it can cost 1.6 to 4.5% of   
   >> the purchase. That's a huge chunk of the merchant's profit margin   
   >> particularly on the affinity cards and 'high spender' or points cards.   
   >>   
   >> Now a merchant who doesn't cover all his costs is out of business so   
   >> you know where those costs get passed along to.... in grocery stores   
   >> they used to work on a 1-2% margin because they were getting 'the   
   >> turns' but these days it's 7-8% mostly to cover card costs.   
      
   > I don't know how much shop keepers get ripped off by the banks here,   
      
   Its nothing like as high as that 7-8% here.   
      
   > but I know that if they didn't accept transactions from saving accounts as   
   > well as from cheque accounts and credit, they would soon be out of   
   > business.   
      
   Woolys and BigW don't in fact allow you to select   
   the Credit option with a debit card, and that hasn't   
   done them any harm business wise.   
      
   > Customers expect to be able to pay the way they wish and will quickly go   
   > elsewhere.   
      
   Hasn't happen with Woolys and BigW.   
      
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