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   From: john@jfeldredge.com   
      
   On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:57:08 -0600, Greg Goss wrote:   
      
   > "J. Clarke"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>FWIW, Aldi, which makes a great show of frugality (they rent you   
   >>shopping carts for 25 cents for example to make sure you return them to   
   >>the proper place thus saving them the cost of a cart collector) will   
   >>take debit cards but not credit cards in the US, which suggests that   
   >>debit fees are less than credit fees.   
   >   
   > Almost all supermarkets require a deposit to unlock their carts.   
   >   
   > I consider the size of that deposit to be an indicator of the wealth of   
   > the community that the supermarket is set into.   
   >   
   > Supermarkets in really rich communities still don't need deposits.   
   > Medium-rich supermarkets want a quarter to unlock the cart.  Poor to   
   > middle-class supermarkets want (in my country) a dollar coin.   
   > Supermarkets in really poor areas have the carts barricaded to the area   
   > next to the entrance, and you have to bring your vehicle to the cart.   
   >   
   > The WalMart about six miles from me is in a poorer neighborhood than   
   > where I live.  It has electronic wheel locks that provide a similar   
   > effect to that barricade.  But I was surprised that the wheels lock up   
   > if you take the cart into the rest of the mall instead of to your car.   
   >   
   > There are two supermarkets close to me and one a little bit further. One   
   > wants a buck, the further one wants a quarter, and the closest one   
   > provides staff with DIFFERENT carts to take groceries to your car,   
   > though they don't stop you from taking the "inside" carts to your car if   
   > there's not a packer handy.  No deposit at all on this one.  The area   
   > between me and the "free" supermarket is upper-middle.  I don't have a   
   > feel for the money class of the area on the other side of the free one.   
   > The "buck" one and the quarter one are both near lower-middle class   
   > neighborhoods.   
      
   I haven't encountered any grocery stores in Nashville, TN, USA, who   
   charge a cart deposit, even in poor neighborhoods.  On the other hand,   
   shopping malls that provide baby strollers do charge a deposit.   
      
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