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   Barry Margolin  wrote:   
   > In article <160620151831247167%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   >  Your Name  wrote:   
   > > In article ,   
   > > Barry Margolin  wrote:   
   > > > In article <160620151354581995%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > >  Your Name  wrote:   
   > > > > In article ,   
   > > > > Barry Margolin  wrote:   
   > > > > > In article <160620150937154266%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > > > >  Your Name  wrote:   
   > > > > > > In article ,   
   > > > > > > Barry Margolin  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > In article <150620151933134736%YourName@YourISP.com>,   
   > > > > > > >  Your Name  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > In article <87zj4136v1.fsf@koala.therandymon.com>, RS Wood   
   > > > > > > > >  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Just heard a review of the new Jurassic Park movie on the   
   > BBC,   
   > > > > > > > > > who   
   > > > > > > > > > reports "Not only does this disaster have plot holes you   
   > could   
   > > > > > > > > > drive a steam ship through, but the characters have huge plot   
   > > > > > > > > > holes in their development too.  So you have a dodgy plot   
   > with   
   > > > > > > > > > characters behaving illogically for reasons that remain   
   > > > > > > > > > unexplained."   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Sounds like a good one to miss.  That it's a sequel should   
   > have   
   > > > > > > > > > made this obvious.  I'm trying to think of a single sequel   
   > that   
   > > > > > > > > > I have enjoyed, and can't think of a single one of them.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > I don't know about you in particular, but many people pick The   
   > > > > > > > > Empire Strikes Back as better than the original Star Wars.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Aren't all the Godfathers considered classics?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > No idea, but "Classic" usually refers to a boring piece of garbage   
   > > > > > > nobody in their right mind wants to watch ... or read in the case   
   of   
   > > > > > > garbage like Shakespeare.  :-)   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > OK, I'll ask it differently. Isn't the concensus that all the   
   > > > > > Godfather   
   > > > > > movies are great?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > No idea ... but bear in mind that the "general consensus" according to   
   > > > > network management is that people want "reality" TV, and yet nobody   
   > > > > actually likes it and few people admit to watching it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Although if you consider Shakespeare to be garbage, you may not be   
   > > > > > the   
   > > > > > best person to ask.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I've never seen any Godfather movies ... but judging by what I've read,   
   > > > > clips I've seen, etc., I no interest in seeing them either.   
   > > >   
   > > > So you haven't seen what is considered to be one of the greatest   
   > > > American movies (it's #3 on the AFI top 100), yet you feel qualified to   
   > > > comment on what movies are better than others?   
   > >   
   > > The fact that some fools voted them into a "Top 100" list (one of   
   > > *MANY* *MANY* such lists that are all different) doesn't actually mean   
   > > they're good movies, it often doesn't even mean they're popular movies.   
   > > They're usually a load of utter crap in those kinds of lists.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you either haven't seen   
   > > > Citizen Kane, or you also consider it to be "boring garbage" like   
   > > > Shakespeare.   
   > >   
   > > Nope. I've never seen nor read probably any of the garbage promoted as   
   > > "classic", other than the few we were forced to "study" at school.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > What do you consider to be great cinema?   
   > >   
   > > Even if I bothered to make a list, there probably wouldn't be any silly   
   > > "classic" or "blockbuster" movies on it.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > If any movie by Michael Bay is in your list, that would be telling.   
   > >   
   > > Can't say I've ever seen a Michael Bay movie (not that I bother to know   
   > > who makes or stars in the movies - I'm more interested in the story   
   > > than stalking some idiot celebrity's career) ... they're all silly   
   > > explosions and car chases aren't they.   
   >   
   > Yes, that was my point. If you don't like classic dramas, and you don't   
   > like blockbusters, just what DO you consider to be good movies? The only   
   > other genre I can think of is romcoms.   
      
   Ewww ... good grief NO!  Girl-germs! Girl-germs!   ;-)   
      
   As above, I watch movies that interest me .. the director, the   
   producer, the actors, the genre are all irrelevant, as is the opinion   
   of anyone else.   
      
   Even if I wasted my time coming up with a list it would be just as   
   pointless as all the other lists around. They're all simply personal   
   opinion. The fact that some numbnut in "authority" (usually and   
   academic or critic / reviewer) labels their particular favourite as a   
   "classic" doesn't actually mean it's a good movie / book that everybody   
   will want to see / read, or enjoy if they do see / read it ... in fact   
   it usually means the complete opposite.   
      
   It's the same with silly box office / sales charts takes. The fact that   
   a movie makes a pile of money doesn't actually mean it's a good movie   
   ... it simply means a huge pile of fools were conned into paying their   
   money by the marketing hype engine and the fact that large numbers of   
   people simply watch anything when they go to the cinema every Friday /   
   Saturday night, what they watch is largely irrelevant even to them.   
      
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