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   J. Clarke to All   
   Re: Review: The Martian   
   12 Jun 16 20:57:46   
   
   From: j.clarke.873638@gmail.com   
      
   In article , dtravel@sonic.net says...   
   >   
   > On 6/12/2016 2:53 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > > In article , Dimensional Traveler   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >> On 6/11/2016 10:40 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > >>> In article , Dimensional Traveler   
   > >>>  wrote:   
   > >>>> On 6/11/2016 7:22 PM, Tim Bruening wrote:   
   > >>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 2:11:34 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:   
   > >>>>>> In article ,   
   > >>>>>>  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> On Sunday, June 5, 2016 at 8:57:18 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>> In article <7b85ccf7-fa9d-491d-bc0a-21c849a4aeda@googlegroups.com>,   
   > >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> When Mark was removing pieces from the Aries 4 MAV, it looked to me   
   > >>>>>>>>> like the pieces were falling as fast as they would on Earth!   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> That's because they made the movie on Earth.  ;-)   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> But the producers were able to simulate zero gravity on the Hermes.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> It's easier to simulate in a small space (or even filmed in reality   
   > >>>>>> using the "Vomit Comet"). It requires attaching everything to wires on   
   > >>>>>> an overhead gantry system or filming underwater, which is far more   
   > >>>>>> difficult and cumbersome in a wide open space than inside a studio.   
   The   
   > >>>>>> only other way is to digitally add the pieces in post-production,   
   which   
   > >>>>>> makes it difficult for actor interaction.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> How did they simulate the balls of water floating in the Hermes as a   
   crew   
   > >>>>> member cartwheeled and ate them?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> CGI water.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Yep, or booking time on a "Vomit Comet" plane ride.   
   > >>   
   > >> You'd have to paint the inside that special shade of blue so you can   
   > >> insert the CGI background then.  CGI water would be cheaper I think.   
   > >   
   > > It depends on what is being filmed. In some cases they simply build a   
   > > set of the spacecraft interior inside a "Vomit Comet" plane - then no   
   > > CGI is needed at all.   
   > >   
   > My first thought is, "CGI water is still probably cheaper."  (I suspect   
   > the bean-counter thinking is, okay, have to rent the plane for the   
   > entire day plus the extra to build inside it, pay for an on-site camera   
   > crew for the entire day and then have the actor(s) get motion sick on   
   > the second take.  Or they can just stay in the studio, take five minutes   
   > to slowly spin the camera in front of the actor as he stands there and   
   > then pay a geek for two hours to make CGI water.)  :)   
      
   If one geek can do it satisfactorily in two hours.  If you look at the   
   credits on movies that use CGI you'll find that the CGI staffing is   
   generally immense.   
      
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