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   Your Name to Dimensional Traveler   
   Re: alt.fan.starwars, rec.arts.sf.starwa   
   20 Aug 17 13:58:18   
   
   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   On 2017-08-20 01:21:23 +0000, Dimensional Traveler said:   
   > On 8/19/2017 3:36 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote:   
   >> Your Name  wrote in   
   >> news:onadcr$1g8e$1@gioia.aioe.org:   
   >>> On 2017-08-19 21:48:43 +0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy   
   >>> said:   
   >>>> Your Name  wrote in news:on8ap3$do2$1   
   >>>> @gioia.aioe.org:   
   >>>>> On 2017-08-18 23:06:02 +0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy   
   >>>>> said:   
   >>>>>> Your Name  wrote in   
   >>>>>> news:on7r1a$1snq$2@gioia.aioe.org:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> After the (rumoured) stupidity of pointlessly shovelling the   
   >>>>>>> Death Star in the Han Solo movie, I don't hold much hope for   
   >>>>>>> any of these new Diseny-made Star Wars movies.   :-(   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It really took you that long to realize it's all going to be   
   >>>>>> crap?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The first clue was "Disney now owns Star Wars." The absolute   
   >>>>>> proof was their announcement that they're going to be   
   >>>>>> releasing 87 new titles per month for the next five thousand   
   >>>>>> years, with everything single one coming with a complete line   
   >>>>>> of toys and other (non-) collectible.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Seriously, dude, what the hell did you expect?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Yep. It was a given as soon as the buy-out was rumoured.  :-(   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> George Lucas should have kept it all and perhaps given over   
   >>>>> the day-to-day running to Rick McCallum.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Only if he cared more about the franchise than he did about $4   
   >>>> *billion* dollars. Which he clearly didn't. Nor would you or I.   
   >>>   
   >>> He would easily have made far more money simply by keeping   
   >>> control of the franchise ... in fact franchise*s*, since the   
   >>> sale included Indiana Jones, LucasArts, ILM, etc.   
   >>   
   >> So now you're as world famous an economist at Shawn Wilson? Is that   
   >> it? Maybe he could have, but not all at once. And he'd clearly lost   
   >> whatever mojo he ever had for Star Wars, after the shitstorm that   
   >> was the prequels, so it was clealy time to get out. He obviously   
   >> did the fans a favor by making a very bold public statement that   
   >> Star Wars was finished, and anything ever done under that name in   
   >> the future would be shit. Not more illusions, no more fantasies, no   
   >> more fanwank pretending Lucas was the brains behind it all.   
   >   
   > As I understand it Lucas never was _all_ of the brains behind it.  He   
   > came up with the basic idea but others refined it into the original   
   > trilogy.  It went to shit when Lucas thought he could do it all on his   
   > own.   
      
   The Prequel Trilogy was "refined" but others as well.   
      
   Depending on who you want to believe, JJ Abrmas' horrible   
   supposed-sequel-but-really-just-a-lazy-ass-reboot "Episode VII" was   
   originally going to be based on ideas George Lucas was already working   
   on before selling out, but it was then completely re-written, twice.   
      
      
      
   > (And BTW I liked 'Rogue One'.  I liked that showed the Empire really   
   > was powerful and there was good reason for the Rebel Alliance to be   
   > desperate.)   
      
   At least part of the problem with "Rogue One" was that none of the   
   characters / actors had any charisma, so you simply didn't care less   
   what happened to them.   
      
   It's also becoming rather boring always dragging in the same old   
   characters and places into *everything*. If they want to make   
   standalone movies, then make them completely separate. It's a *massive*   
   universe with billions of other stories, so there's no need to always   
   have Darth Vader, etc. turning up.   
      
   According to rumour / speculation based on a recent Ron Howard tweeted   
   image, the Han Solo movie may also suffer from the same issue by   
   pointlessly including the Death Star yet again.   
      
   The "Rebels" animated show started off really well becuase it was a   
   separate story, but then they ruined it by draggin ing Darth Maul,   
   Darth Vader, Tarkin, Asohka, etc.   
      
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