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   Your Name to J. Clarke   
   Re: Life on Europa in scifi?   
   28 Apr 18 14:26:41   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.science, rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   On 2018-04-28 02:07:34 +0000, J. Clarke said:   
   > On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 12:32:38 +1200, Your Name    
   > wrote:   
   >> On 2018-04-27 08:01:48 +0000, Paul Colquhoun said:   
   >>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:40:08 +1200, Your Name  wrote:   
   >>> | On 2018-04-27 05:32:22 +0000, Thomas Koenig said:   
   >>> |> Your Name  schrieb:   
   >>> |>>   
   >>> |>> The real problem is that scientists are blinkered into the belief that   
   >>> |>> life of any sort /must/ have water, which is moronically silly.   
   >>> |>   
   >>> |> Water has a range of qualities that make it suitable for complex   
   >>> |> molecules. There is a lot of it around, it has such low energy,   
   >>> |> it will be found in a reasonably pure state, it allows for   
   >>> |> condensation reactions with polar leaving groups, it has   
   >>> |> very strong hydrogen bonds, it dissolves salts...   
   >>> |   
   >>> | All true, on Earth. Many other planets and other life forms are almost   
   >>> | certainly completely different.   
   >>>   
   >>> No, chemistry and physics are the same everywhere. Water will have the   
   >>> same properties throughout the universe.   
   >>   
   >> Oh for God's sake ... water is the same everywhere, but *life* is not.   
   >> The point has nothing to do with water itself.   
   >>   
   >> Earth-based life may rely on water (and even that's dubious in some   
   >> cases), but alien life does *NOT* have to rely on water. Too many   
   >> scientists believe alien life does have to have water. They can't   
   >> understand that life on other planets may not have anything to do with   
   >> water. They stupidly look at only planets and moons with water because   
   >> they're blinkered.   
   >   
   > They've looked a lot harder at Mars and Venus than they have at any   
   > other place that has water, so your argument falls flat.   
      
   And on Mars they looked mostly, if not completely, where they were   
   hoping to find water. They're looking at Europa (as in the topic title)   
   because there's water.   
      
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