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   Paul S Person to taustinca@gmail.com   
   Re: The Martian   
   07 Oct 21 08:14:55   
   
   From: psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:37:27 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha   
    wrote:   
      
   >Your Name  wrote in   
   >news:sjl4ql$lob$1@gioia.aioe.org:   
   >   
   >> On 2021-10-06 16:01:08 +0000, novaste...@gmail.com said:   
   >>> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 9:15:42 AM UTC-6, Paul S   
   >>> Person wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 20:05:12 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> Paul S Person  writes:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I finally rented this from Amazon and saw it last night.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It is a well-done film and would be worth four stars except   
   >>>>>> for one small problem: it is as dull as dishwater. Three   
   >>>>>> stars, then.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> This may not be apparent unless you view it, as I did, as   
   >>>>>> being in the same "realistic space movie" category as   
   >>>>>> /Apollo 13/. Comparing the two shows the difference between   
   >>>>>> a really good movie and one that is well-done but ...   
   >>>>>> dispensible.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> IMHO, of course.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And not a HO I share in the slightest. I had the same sense   
   >>>>> of constant tension in the Martian as I did in Apollo 13.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is no need for you to share my HO. You are entitled to   
   >>>> your own.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I had the blahs all too much of the time.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And, the moment they skipped the pre-launch tests because   
   >>>> "they only catch a problem one time in twenty" I /knew/ the   
   >>>> rocket was going to explode. It was cinematically inevitable.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I will concede that the climax was a bit exciting, although,   
   >>>> again, it was cinematically impossible for the attempt to   
   >>>> fail. So any tension was of the "how do they manage it" rather   
   >>>> than "will they manage it" variety.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Just as, when I watched /The Bad Seed/, I shortly found I   
   >>>> could tell when someone would be knocking at the door: the   
   >>>> conversation was heading toward a point where two characters   
   >>>> would be able to compare notes and figure what was going on,   
   >>>> and /that/ couldn't be allowed. The knock at the door stopped   
   >>>> the conversation every time -- and it never resumed from the   
   >>>> point of interruption.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The climax, while quite rushed, was, however, a suprise.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The child abuse at the end was ... well, I am old enough to   
   >>>> recognize that it was amusing to the audience, but I no longer   
   >>>> find it so.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I'll say having any tension at all in Apollo 13 is a *real*   
   >>>>> tribute to everyone involved in the film, since we all know   
   >>>>> how it came out decades before the movie was made.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Which is what makes it a /much/ better movie.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And /2001/ did it better as well.   
   >>   
   >> The only thing "2001" did 'well' was put people to sleep ...   
   >> it's a great cure for insomnia.  :-\   
   >   
   >That's not the *only* thing it did. The ending also confused the   
   >hell out of me. Even after reading the book, I have no idea what   
   >was supposed to be happening. Best I can figure, it was a film   
   >representation of an acid trip.   
      
   It can certainly be argued that it had much the same effect.   
      
   Well, except that most acid trips don't end up with the Star Child at   
   the end, looking at the Earth as if it were a shiny new toy.   
      
   IIRC, some of the trip at the end was regarded, by reviewers, as very   
   advanced and very cool. /Star Trek -- The Motion Picture/ did   
   something like it, although whether that was deliberate or not I have   
   no idea.   
      
   >Only movie I've ever seen mroe confusing was the one with Van Damme   
   >tied down in the desert, killing a vulture with his teeth.   
      
   That one I missed, God be praised.   
      
   Despite buying a "Van Damme 4-Pack" (4 films, 2 per side of a DVD) to   
   get a /letterboxed/ version of /Timecop/.   
      
   The others looked, to me, like three different lessons in how /not/ to   
   make a movie.   
   --   
   "I begin to envy Petronius."   
   "I have envied him long since."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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