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|    Jack Bohn to Paul S Person    |
|    Re: Cinematic Robots: Masters and Servan    |
|    08 Oct 22 07:20:49    |
      From: jack.bohn64@gmail.com              On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 12:13:49 PM UTC-4, Paul S Person wrote:       > On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 08:02:31 -0700 (PDT), Jack Bohn wrote:        > >        > >"The Day the Earth Stood Still" is based on the short story "Farewell to       the Master" by Harry Bates. An alien and robot visitor land their spaceship in       Washington, D.C., hijinx ensue. One aspect of the story not brought over is       that the robot is the        master of their society... or was that fact just hidden in the movie?       > If by "hidden" you mean "not present at all", then yes, it was.        > Indeed, given their characterization as all-powerful policemen, having        > them in charge would have been seen as a robot revolt.              I admit my thoughts were just a stream-of-consciousness roll to get something       out, but I can try to defend it.              If robots are claiming government's exclusive right to violence, can they       avoid the other responsibilities of government?       I guess I'm thinking of "Colossus: The Forbin Project" (I've been thinking       about the movies they aren't showing, see below) there the transfer of power       was a bit disorderly, one could say unplanned. But Colossus was working under       the handicap that -as        Asimov says- a computer is an immobile robot (a bit different view from a       robot being a mobile computer) the only actuators it had available was the       humans it could threaten with nuclear annihilation. The only book in the       series that I've read was _The        Fall of Colossus_ where (spoiler) it still has to jealously guard its nuclear       monopoly, and is still trying to figure out the motivations and responses of       the humans.              If we look at their behavior on this mission, with the story's warning against       assumptions, they could be said to be equal partners. They equally expose       themselves to being shot, although Gort is impervious, Klaatu slightly less       so. Oh, hey, then we        see a demonstration of its automatic reaction against the aggressor, ...and       anyone standing around that might back up the aggressor. He doesn't       immediately go after the higher-level enablers, but they may be out of reach.        Then there is the curious        incident of the guards in the nighttime. Was there any justification for       Gort's actions except that of necessity? Or just a robot's gonna do what a       robot wants to do?                            Perhaps TCM should have paired this movie with "Colossus," the latter is a       Universal picture, but they have a good relationship with them vie classic       movies: the three Frankenstein movie starring Karloff will have pride of place       on Halloween. Also, if        they had gotten "Colossus" they should have gotten "Silent Running" with the       wonderful Huey, Dewey, and Louie. Oddly, they aren't showing their own "GOG"       with cool robot designs if not such a cool robot story. (Hmm... it looks like       "GOG" was        distributed by United Artists, it must have merged with Warners' holdings       through Turner's purchase of the MGM/UA library, so they'd also have "The       Twonky" with its non-humanoid robot.) Overall I don't quite understand       limiting it to two movies of a        Saturday night. This is seemingly the "Star of the Month" slot, but I'm       thinking times they run a star's films from prime time until the wee hours of       the morning.              --        -Jack              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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