From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:40:09 -0800 (PST), Jack Bohn   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 11:45:23 AM UTC-5, Paul S Person wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:36:50 -0800 (PST), Jack Bohn   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >The James Bond movies, before they ran out of books, were famous for   
   jacking up the title, tearing out the old machinery, and building an entirely   
   new story inside it.   
   >   
   >> Some were very close to the book, others were (to varying degrees)   
   >> farther from the book, and (yes) a few arguably shared nothing with   
   >> the book except the title and (maybe) the name of the villain.   
   >   
   >There was a sequence where Bond and a Bond Girl were tied together and towed   
   behind a motorboat over coral that was transplanted from one book to another's   
   movie.  Alas, I don't remember which.  I know I've read _Moonraker_ and maybe   
   another whose title    
   escapes me.  I think the sequence was shown in "Never Say Never Again," by   
   interesting circumstances required to be a close remake of "Thunderball."   
      
   It was moved from /Live and Let Die/ to /For Your Eyes Only/.   
   The "he disagreed with something that ate him" sequence was moved from   
   /Live and Let Die/ [1] to /License to Kill/.   
      
   [1] And, for some reason, referred to in (IIRC) /Thunderball/ by Bond   
   reminding Leiter that "they got much closer to you in Jamaica".   
      
   Just as the bit about the New Gun at the start of /Dr No/ is (in the   
   book) a result of the ending of /From Russia With Love/.   
      
   >> Also, to the extent that the books formed a series, the movies   
   >> destroyed that by using the books in the filmmaker's order.   
   >   
   >That reminds me of the story that an upgrade to Bond's gun was moved from one   
   book to another's movie (the first one?) as a good character moment.  Are   
   there other series-building moments from the books transplanted to the   
   movies?  (In the Sherlock    
   Holmes books, Moriarity was introduced to the readers and to Watson in the   
   story that was supposed to kill off Holmes.  Later, an earlier case was   
   written, and Moriarity was to play a part, Holmes and Watson discuss him (by   
   name) as a known problem.     
   Fans mostly headcannon the discussions as taking place in the opposite   
   stories, although I doubt anyone has tampered with the sacred texts, even if   
   collecting them in internal chronological order.)   
      
   See above for the Bond gun upgrade. It was in the novel /Dr No/, which   
   doesn't mean it wasn't put in the film to show Bond's character.   
      
   There are two pairs of films that have a common third character, one a   
   country sherriff and the other Jaws. And they kept Blofeld around for   
   several films after /OHMSS/.   
      
   The only real sequence in the books is the last four novels:   
   /Thunderball/, /OHMSS/, /You Only Live Twice/, and /The Man with the   
   Golden Gun/. By doing /YOLT/ first, the films completely destroyed   
   this but, what the heck, they were still James Bond movies!   
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