From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 06:50:06 -0700 (PDT), Jack Bohn   
    wrote:   
      
   >Paul S Person wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 03:46:40 -0700 (PDT), Jack Bohn    
   >>  wrote:    
   >>    
   >> >Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (1920)    
   >> >John Barrymore in the dual role.    
   >> >Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde (1941)    
   >> >Spencer Tracy in the dual role.    
   >> >Is this the story that's spent the most time considered art rather than   
   horror? Tracy's makeup is rather subtle, not until late in the movie when the   
   transformations begin coming unbidden and we get the fade-in of the changes   
   can I tell what was done.   
    He's stockier than Barrymore, or Frederic March of the 1931 version, is his   
   the model of the burly Hydes, such as in Bugs Bunny cartoons, or Marvel's   
   supervillain?   
   >>   
   >> I watched a couple of these (31 and 41, perhaps, not the silent    
   >> version) and, having read the short novel within living memory,    
   >> noticed that the story in the film is ... considerably changed. Which    
   >> may be a good thing.   
   >>   
   >Like Frankenstein and Dracula, some of the changes can be blamed on a stage   
   adaptation, not totally on Hollywood.   
   >This is my first time for the '41, my second Public Domain set with the   
   silent (bringing its own raft of movie titles).  I'd seen a few movies with   
   John Barrymore, and there's his resemblance to Lionel, so I can't say what the   
   experience would be like    
   just seeing the character, not the actor, or the star.   
   >>   
   >> >Predestination (2013)    
   >> >Spoilers: an adaptation of Heinlein's "All You Zombies." Faithful to the   
   talkiness of the original, difficult with a pair of muttering actors. You may   
   already be saying that the cast is too large, but grant that.   
   >>   
   >> I /really/ liked this one. Rarely have I seen a film that captures the    
   >> nature of Science Fiction as well as this one does.   
   >>   
   >Yeah, I have no idea how, where, or when I picked this up.  My collection can   
   be sorted into two large groups, those I've sought out to buy, and those I've   
   stumbled across.  This is one of the latter.  If I did reorder my shelves that   
   way, I'd put this    
   next to others that make it worthwhile.  Have you seen Gerrold's "Martian   
   Child" or Bixby's "The Man from Earth"?   
      
   Sadly not.   
      
   My replacement program of VHS tapes with DVDs ensured that a large   
   percentage of DVDs were sought and purchased, and my new (well, "new"   
   in the sense of "started about 10 years ago) practice of streaming and   
   then buying the select few I want to have has only added to that,   
   including /Predestination/. Of course, deciding to stream a film is,   
   more and more, less a matter of deliberate pre-planning and more a   
   matter of browsing online lists and stumbling across something.   
      
   /eXistenZ/, however, was /definitely/ a DVD I purchased without having   
   even heard of it, let alone seen it. And there are at least a few   
   others others.   
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