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   Don to Paul S Person   
   Re: [NEWS] New 'Starship Troopers' adapt   
   31 Mar 25 22:36:59   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.movies.current-films, alt.fan.heinlein   
   From: g@crcomp.net   
      
   Paul S Person wrote:   
   > Your Name wrote:   
   >>   
   >>Based on the original 1959 book rather than a "remake" of the 1997 movie.   
   >>   
   >>    New Starship Troopers Movie   
   >>    From District 9 & Chappie Director Neill Blomkamp in the Works   
   >>    --------------------------------------------------------------   
   >>    A new Starship Troopers movie is in the works.   
   >>   
   >>    The original Starship Troopers, based on the 1959 novel by   
   >>    Robert A. Heinlein, was released in 1997. Directed by Paul   
   >>    Verhoeven, the satirical sci-fi movie stars Casper Van Dien   
   >>    as Johnny Rico, Dina Meyer as Dizzy Flores, Denise Richards   
   >>    as Carmen Ibanez, Jake Busey as Ace Levy, Neil Patrick Harris   
   >>    as Carl Jenkins, and Clancy Brown as Sergeant Zim.   
   >   
   > For some meaning of "satirical" unknown to me.   
   >   
   > Many Verhoeven films are worth not only seeing but owning on DVD.   
   >   
   > Some, like this one and /Katje Tippel/, may be worth seeing, but, once   
   > seen, need never be seen again.   
   >   
   > Others, whose very names I do not recall, are very bad indeed.   
      
   Barsoom Postcards pokes polemic people:   
      
       Thoughts on thirty years of memetic skirmishing over the meaning of   
   Starship Troopers   
      
       ...   
       The debate goes something like this:   
      
       Leftists: "You chuds are clearly too stupid to realize that   
       the movie was a satire! The Terran Federation are obviously   
       the bad guys! The bugs are good boys who dindu nuffin! The   
       asteroid attack on Buenos Aires was clearly a false flag so   
       the fascist imperalists of the Terran Federation could have   
       an excuse to invade the innocent bugs and take their planet!   
       You guys are too stupid to understand basic media literacy!"   
      
       To which rightists respond, as we are wont, with memes:   
      
          
          
          
          
          
      
       You might infer from this that the right is media illiterate.   
       If so, you would be a midwit. What this demonstrates is, in   
       fact, an effortlessly instinctive high mastery of media   
       literacy, one that transcends the left’s increasingly   
       ineffectual narrative control.   
      
       The argument the left always advances in this case is that,   
       because Verhoeven intended his movie as a satire of fascism,   
       any use of symbolism from the movie for rightist ends is ipso   
       facto a misapplication, and evidence that the rightist user   
       was too stupid to understand the actual meaning of the film.   
      
       What is actually happening is simply that the right has used   
       memes to appropriate the meaning of the film, and alter it   
       towards its own ends. This is fair game because this is   
       precisely what Verhoeven did in the first place. Verhoeven   
       didn’t so much ignore as invert the authorial intent,   
       presenting a twisted version of Heinlein’s narrative in order   
       to make the story say what Verhoeven wanted it to say, which   
       was the opposite of what Heinlein himself was saying. In   
       effect he wrapped a creative work composed in one form of   
       media in a second form of media, which he used to invert the   
       meaning of the original, like flipping an image upside down   
       by sending the light through a lens. The right then simply   
       wrapped Verhoeven’s film in a third layer of media – memes –   
       and used this to invert the film’s meaning. In doing so, the   
       right actually restored the original authorial intent: by   
       subverting Verhoeven’s subversion, Heinlein’s intended meaning   
       is once again made clear. ...   
      
       (excerpt)   
      
          
      
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