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   Message 253,806 of 255,659   
   Art Sackman to All   
   Re: What a surprise   
   18 Aug 23 21:30:36   
   
   From: arthursackman@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:13:48 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:   
   > On 8/17/23 12:54 PM, ScottW wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:36:50 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:    
   > >> On 8/17/23 11:13 AM, ScottW wrote:    
   > >>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 5:04:03 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:    
   > >>>> On 8/16/23 11:17 PM, Art Sackman wrote:    
   > >>>>>> Thank you, I already quoted the original document. This confirms that    
   > >>>>>> Biden's lawyers claim the agreement was made with the prosecution and    
   > >>>>>> didn't involve the judge.    
   > >>>>>    
   > >>>>> Duh!!!! That's the normal course of business.    
   > >>>>>    
   > >>>>> that is typically how it us.    
   > >>>>> JUDGES DO NOT NEGOTIATE PLEA DEALS.    
   > >>>>> They are negotiated between prosecution and defense attorneys.    
   > >>>>> BUT, they are subject to the eventual acceptance or rejection ut the   
   judge,    
   > >>>>>    
   > >>>>> YOU    
   > >>>> You wouldn't go wrong if you made it a practice to edit out anything    
   > >>>> you've typed in all-caps.    
   > >>>>> A plea deal not is NOT a binding contract, if NOT accepted by the   
   judge.    
   > >>>> Hunter's lawyers are saying they have a valid diversion agreement, not   
   a    
   > >>>> plea deal, which does not require a judge's approval.    
   > >>>    
   > >>> Stephen doesn't understand, Judges can't file charges.    
   > >> Who mentioned charges?    
   > >    
   > > You were your teacher's worst nightmare.   
   > Good answer! The filing:   
   > 1 The Government stated in open court    
   > that the Diversion Agreement was a    
   > “bilateral agreement between the    
   > parties” that “stand[s] alone” from the    
   > Plea Agreement, and that it was “in    
   > effect” and “binding.” (Hr’g Tr.    
   > 46:9–14) (Government: “Your Honor, I    
   > believe that this is a bilateral    
   > agreement between the parties that the    
   > parties view in their best interest.”);    
   > id. at 91:6–8 (Government: “Your Honor,    
   > the Diversion Agreement is a contract    
   > between the parties so it’s in effect    
   > until it’s either breached or a   
   > determination [sic], period.”)...   
      
      
   a diversion from WHAT?   
   from a stronger sentence upon conviction.   
   Setencg happens after a pleas deal is accepted by the judge, and   
   sentencing is pronounced.   
   A diversion agreement is part of sentencing.   
      
   Many agreements and contracts are subject to other things happeneng    
   first. either by contract stipulation   
   or by causes of law.   
      
   one such example would be prenuptials.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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