From: pianoforte109@yahoo.com   
      
   On 10/1/23 6:16 PM, ScottW wrote:   
   > On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 10:46:21 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:   
   >> On 10/1/23 10:29 AM, ScottW wrote:   
   >>> On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 6:12:41 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/30/23 6:53 PM, ScottW wrote:   
   >>>>> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:29:02 AM UTC-7, mINE109   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 9/29/23 10:18 PM, ScottW wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'll give you my personal example. In remodeling a house   
   >>>>>>> we find that our existing electric water heater is not   
   >>>>>>> acceptable. It has to be replaced with a heat pump water   
   >>>>>>> heater. The electric cost about $600. The heat pump   
   >>>>>>> water heater is $2300. Even worse....the damn thing   
   >>>>>>> doesn't get the water nearly as hot so you'll never have   
   >>>>>>> really hot water again. And when the warm water runs out   
   >>>>>>> it takes over an hour to get it back to warm.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Thanks Joe.   
   >>>>>> And that's why you smell, according to Trump.   
      
   >>> We have a ton of new construction and remodel codes that are not   
   >>> imposed upon existing buildings. You think I should have to   
   >>> replumb my house because of the idiotic and wasteful 70's design   
   >>> to provide hot water on demand?   
   >> It sounds like something you've chosen to do, which requires   
   >> permits that have standards.   
   >   
   > It sounds like is just noise in your head.   
      
   I bow down to your ability to pick a word out of context.   
      
   So what's the problem? You remodeled "a house" in a way that required a   
   heat pump due to new codes? The heat pump you installed doesn't work as   
   well as the old electric heater? What keeps you from selecting the   
   temp you want? What kept you from choosing the right tank size?   
      
   While we're at it, how can remodel codes apply to anything but existing   
   buildings? Who wants you to "replumb" your house?   
      
   Title 24? Of course states have standards. "Compliance with Title 24 is   
   mandatory for all new construction and major renovations in California,"   
   says one site. How else would it be?   
      
   https://up.codes/viewer/california/ca-energy-code-2022/chapter/9   
   single-family-residential-buildings-additions-and-alterations-to   
   existing-reside#9   
      
   Heat pump required if your existing resistance heater doesn't meet the   
   usage spec.   
      
   SDGE has a $500 rebate which would bring down the cost to under $2k or   
   about the same as it cost for me to install a gas heater and bring   
   ventilation up to code. And your electricity use at half of previous   
   should be welcome to you given your numerous complaints about electric   
   rates.   
      
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