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   Trevor Wilson to ScottW   
   Re: More unsettled Climate Science   
   23 Jan 24 09:05:13   
   
   From: trevor@rageaudio.com.au   
      
   On 23/01/2024 5:00 am, ScottW wrote:   
   > On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:00:39 PM UTC-8, Trevor Wilson wrote:   
   >> On 22/01/2024 3:56 am, ScottW wrote:   
   >>> The Clausius-Clapeyron relationship has been a fundamental principle in   
   climate science, suggesting that with every 1°C rise in temperature,   
   atmospheric moisture should increase by about 7%.   
   >>>   
   >>> Surprisingly, the research found that over dry and semi-arid regions,   
   moisture levels have remained constant or even declined, as observed in the   
   Southwestern United States.   
   >>>   
   >>> "This is contrary to all climate model simulations in which it rises at a   
   rate close to theoretical expectations, even over dry regions," the authors   
   wrote in the new paper.   
   >>> (end snip)   
   >>>   
   >>> You may note that water vapor is a "green house" gas and this lack in the   
   rise with rising temps is an issue with current climate projections.   
   >>>   
   >>> ScottW   
   >> **The climate of this planet is exceedingly complex and not perfectly   
   >> understood. It makes perfect sense to spend a lot more money to assess   
   >> the situation.   
   >>   
   >> HOWEVER, there is one thing that is clear and unequivocal:   
   >>   
   >> The temperature of the planet is rising and rising fast and CO2 is the   
   >> major driver that remains under human control.   
   >   
   > Assumed increases in water vapor is a big factor in the prediction of   
   catastrophic tipping.   
   > And it's not rising near as fast as predicted.   Nor are glaciers gone or   
   snow no more as predicted.   
   >   
   > ScottW   
      
   **You STILL fail to understand the reality. CO2 and methane are the big   
   problems. Water vapour is not something we can control (directly). In   
   some areas of the planet (deserts, Arctic and Antarctic regions) CO2 and   
   methane are vastly more influential than water vapour.   
      
   We need to address the problem of human release of GHGs.   
      
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