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   Message 39,721 of 41,683   
   Scott Dorsey to liquidator   
   Re: Advice needed! - How to run 12 small   
   26 Mar 10 21:35:55   
   
   XPost: rec.audio.pro, alt.audio.pro.live-sound   
   From: kludge@panix.com   
      
   liquidator  wrote:   
   >"Phil Allison"  wrote in message   
   >news:8150qeFrjeU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>   
   >> "liquidator"   
   >>   
   >>> He's also wrong. all he needs to do is add transformers. Done it a   
   >>> hundred times.   
   >>   
   >> **  Really ??  Not with domestic amps like Technics.   
   >>   
   >> Such amps are never intended to drive 70 volt line ( step up) transformers   
   >> are very likely to be damaged by so doing.   
   >>   
   >> The issue is core saturation at low frequencies  -   hard to avoid   
   >> completely and deadly on anything but the most rugged amplifiers.   
   >   
   >Interesting. Have done it dozens of times. Tend not to use Technics, and do   
   >use quality transformers.   
      
   Wow.  I had no idea Phil was still around!  But yes, I have done it plenty   
   of times, even using some pretty shoddy amps based on STK modules (like   
   those Rane 1U power amps) and never had a problem.  But I could see there   
   being an issue with undersized output transformers if you aren't filtering   
   the input of the amp.   
      
   I have generally designed 70v systems for high quality audio to have a   
   -3 dB point around 20 Hz, which requires pretty huge transformers.  I   
   strongly recommend the Tannoy transformers (which are actually made by   
   some company in Canada for them) but the cheap Edcors aren't bad if you   
   buy their "extended low frequency" series.  For background music systems   
   there's no need to have anything that extreme.   
      
   >What about  a coupling capacitor or would that be a bad idea?   
      
   Bad idea if you put it after the amp, because the amp does not like driving   
   capacitive loads.  But put a filter before the amp so the amp never puts   
   low frequencies into the system, and you'll be fine.  Oh yes, and PLEASE   
   use a fuse on the input to the step-up.  This will save you some day when   
   someone shorts out the wiring.   
   --scott   
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