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|    Dick Pierce to geoff    |
|    Re: B&W 801 series 2 crossover    |
|    27 May 10 14:47:29    |
      From: dpierce@cartchunk.org              geoff wrote:       > David Nebenzahl wrote:       >       >       >>Meaning the right *resistance* value. Not necessarily the same       >>*wattage*. Since it's been pretty well established that this is NOT a       >>fusible resistor that can "protect" the drivers, there's no harm in       >>using a higher-power resistor.       >       > Naa, Dick suggests indirectly that (say) a cap +10% and/or a resistor -10%       > won't compromise any paramter of a crossover design. But he'll say he never       > suggested any such thing.              Probably because, in fact, he didn't say any such thing.              What he DID say is that in particular circumstances, a       wide tolerance in value will have negligable effects on       actual performance, even to the point of being unmeasurable.              If one actually takes the time to actually look for and       READ what he said:               "If, for exanmple, such a resistor is used as a tuning        element in a parallel conjugate compensator, it can be        shown that a +-20% variation in its value might lead        to a +-0.05 dB or less variation in the electrical feed        to the driver OUTSIDE of its passband. 0.05dB corresponds        to a 0.5% variation in signal voltage, well beyond the        means to reliably measure under other than absolutely ideal        conditions.               "For example, say a 5.2 ohm resistance is needed for a series        element in such a conjugate network. Well, 5.2 ohm 7.5 watt        resistors are exceedingly hard to find, so a designer uses        two common values, a 4.7 in series with a 0.47, the resulting        5.17 Ohms being within 1% of the desired 5.2 (which itself        is a compromise, because it depends not only on the DC        resistance of the voice coil, but the TEMPERATURE of the        voice coil, among other things).               Now, say we are stuck with +-10% variations in the 0.47        ohm resistor. The result is effectively a +-1% variation        in the combination. The difference in the passband response        resulting is well within 0.02 dB, and within 0.05 dB to        below the -40dB level. A difference in voice coil temperature        of 30C is going to cause more variations.              Now, what's interesting, if you read what he said, NOWHERE       did he say anything even remotely like what you claim:               "won't compromise any paramter of a crossover design"              It seems that YOU made this rather absurd claim up and attributed       it to him.              --       +--------------------------------+       + Dick Pierce |       + Professional Audio Development |       +--------------------------------+              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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