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   Fred to Zack   
   Re: Yamaha RX-V596 humming   
   25 Jun 10 19:20:21   
   
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   "Zack"  wrote in message news:i03g6k$624$1@new   
   .eternal-september.org...   
   > Fred wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> "Zack"  wrote in message   
   >> news:i00qho$phq$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >>> if you think that is old, I have an AX-630 which drops one or both   
   >>> channels   
   >>> intermittently.  During the dropout, the audio is low and distorted with   
   >>> mostly just buzzing.  Increasing the volume sometimes breaks through the   
   >>> distortion and the problem goes away for a time.  The unit has an AST   
   >>> pack, so replacing just the amp (which otherwise sounds great when it is   
   >>> working) would require new speakers.   
   >>>   
   >>> Any ideas what might be wrong with it?  Reseating the wires external and   
   >>> internal does not seem to result in a fix.  Mostly happens while using   
   >>> the tuner, a TX-400U - which had a bad solder joint on the output that   
   >>> was fixed a few years ago.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Hey Zack,   
   >>   
   >> You say it mostly happens while using the tuner.  I assume that's because   
   >> you mostly listen to the radio.  But if it also happens when listening to   
   >> other   
   >> sources like CD, the problem has to be in the amp.  So here's a plan:   
   >>   
   >> First thing to do is attack the switches & controls with Caig De-Oxit D5.   
   >> Push button switches often require removal of the front panel so you can   
   >> spray de-oxit into the switch where the shaft from the button enters the   
   >> switch.  Spray and then cycle the switch 8 or 10 times.   
   >   
   > This sounds like a good idea.   
   >   
   >> Pots only need de-oxit if they scratch or cut out when rotated from limit   
   >> to   
   >> limit.  If they're doing that, they need to have the de-oxit sprayed in   
   >   
   > The controls are in remarkably good shape and don't have any noise when   
   > rotated.  Kudos to Yamaha on that front.   
   >   
   >> De-oxit is powerful stuff.  You don't have to flood the area for it to   
   >> work - a   
   >> quick blast will do ya if it's aimed right.  Given that both channels are   
   >> cutting out individually, it's about a 98% chance the de-oxit is going to   
   >> solve your problem if you do it right.   
   >>   
   >> But if that doesn't do it, then it's a matter of finding the bad   
   >> connection by visual inspection, mechanical shock (a tap here, a tap   
   >> there), thermal shock (freeze spray, heat gun), and/or good old fashioned   
   >> signal tracing with a   
   >> scope or signal tracer while the unit's misbehaving.  Comparing the same   
   >> point in the bad channel with the working channel will tell you if what   
   >> you're seeing or hearing is OK or not.   
   >>   
   >> Keep in mind it's possible the bad connection is inside a transistor or IC   
   >> - freeze spray is good for finding that kind of problem.   
   >>   
   >> It really helps to have a schematic so you can see where the signal goes   
   >> next if de-oxit doesn't fix it.  Given its age, you can probably find the   
   >> service manual for your amp on the internet in pdf form, possibly for a   
   >> few $ from   
   >> one of the many service manual purveyors out there these days.  Google is   
   >> your friend.   
   >   
   > Ironically, Yamaha has since released a DSP amp with the same ID that has   
   > loads of chips and gagdetry my unit does not have.  Makes Google harder to   
   > use.   
   >   
   > Thanks for the tips, they are something to try!   
      
   Zack,   
      
   I don't know what Yamaha's policy is concerning service info for non-warranty   
   servicers; I've been doing warranty work for them since they first went into   
   the   
   consumer audio business.  You might be able to get the service manual from   
   Yamaha for a few bucks if you wind up needing it.  It's worth a phone call or   
   an   
   email to find out.   
      
   Fred   
      
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